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Author: John Stackpole
Date: 2005-02-22 12:28
...For a Saxophone...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42667-2005Feb21.html
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Author: Rick Williams
Date: 2005-02-23 11:53
Goodman's clarinet auctioned for $25,000 according to the BBC, compared to $262,000 for Parker's alto. Colktranes tenor sax was withdrawn because it didn't make the minimum bid of $500,000.
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2005-02-23 14:05
What did Gerry Mulligan's bari sax go for? I play a 1956 Conn 12M, similar to his I believe, and I'd like to know what my $500 "eBay special" is REALLY worth!
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2005-02-23 15:48
The sax in the middle is pretty clearly a tenor. As far as I know, Parker played only alto.
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Author: mikeW
Date: 2005-02-23 16:22
Certainly the vast majority of his playing was on alto, but Parker DID play some tenor as he recorded with Miles on tenor. On "The Essential Charlie Parker" (MetroCD):
Miles Davis All Stars: Miles Davis (trumpet), Charlie Parker (tenor sax), John Lewis (piano), Nelson Boyd (bass), Max Roach (drums). NYC, 14th August 1947.
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The liner notes also state that he played tenor on a 1953 session with Miles. There are a number of other sessions that someone recorded with him on tenor.
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Author: RodRubber
Date: 2005-02-23 16:48
On a particular session, which is discussed in Mile's Autobiography, Charlie Parker, in his usual stupor, recorded under the name "Charlie Chan"
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2005-02-23 17:16
I thought Parker had to use a different name for some recordings because of contractual issues with his recording label at the time (but maybe not).
I've also read that Parker went through a LOT of alto saxes, buying one when he had a gig, then pawning it for drug money later. I understand he also, for a period of time, played on one of those English-made Grafton white plastic altos.
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Author: mikeW
Date: 2005-02-23 17:23
Those are the stories that I've heard, too. In particular, I belive Parker supposedly played the Grafton at the Massey Hall Concert. There used to be lists of who recorded as whom due to contractual obligations at other record labels.
I don't know what was special about this particular sax. The description, though, implied that Parker alternately pawned and then recovered it, and that his wife kept it after his death, so it's ownership could be traced fairly reliably back to Parker.
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2005-02-23 18:28
I wasn't aware that Parker had played tenor on some recordings, but it doesn't surprise me.
You might be interested in knowing that "our own" Paquito d'Rivera, who in the jazz world is probably best known for his alto sax work (with his clarinet playing less well-known), has also played tenor on a few recordings, though grudgingly it would seem. One album's liner notes say that he only played tenor under pressure from his friends! His tenor playing sounds wonderful, better than he sounds on alto IMHO.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-02-23 18:54
mikeW said:
> The liner notes also state that he played tenor on a 1953 session
> with Miles. There are a number of other sessions
> that someone recorded with him on tenor.
On some of the 1943 sessions with Gillespie, Parker played tenor.
http://www.kyushu-ns.ac.jp/~allan/Documents/CP_S.html
By the way - as most know, throughout his career Parker's alto(s) was (were) usually in an advanced state of disrepair. According to Bill Crowe (Jazz Anecdotes), Jimmy Dorsey saw Bird play at a hotel in Chicago and immediately gave him his own new padless Selmer alto.
The next day, Bird pawned it.
...GBK
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