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Author: music_is_life
Date: 2005-02-20 21:05
"Playing and instrument is easy. Once you learn the basics nothing ever changes. The music is always the same, all that changes is the number of dots per square inch."
what do you think?
[note: I did not invent this, nor do I necessarilly agree with it, just interested in fellow musician's thoughts]
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Author: claclaws
Date: 2005-02-20 22:39
Right..Where can you fit muscianship, interpretation, inspiration etc if it's only notes on a page?
Lucy Lee Jang
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2005-02-20 22:56
I wish that saying was true. But from my personal experience, I'd have to say that it sure doesn't apply to me. Sounds like something that Stanley Drucker would say (From hearing about his sayings about his job as the principle clarinet in the NY Phil as "easy")
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: music_is_life
Date: 2005-02-20 23:00
*my clar. teacher said something like: "what they failed to mention is that it takes 15 years to master the basics" or something. I liked that one!
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Author: FredR
Date: 2005-02-21 07:36
One day, many years ago, after a flawless run through of the 1st movement the Brahms 1st Sonata, my instructor sighed and said "the notes are easy it's the music thats hard". Incidentally I still work on it to this day.
FredR
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Author: LeWhite
Date: 2005-02-21 11:39
Unfortunately, I know too many people who have gotten very far with the above theory. But good for them I guess! It just shows that all you need is to play the notes.
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Author: music_is_life
Date: 2005-02-21 13:18
ooh clarnibass, TOUCHE!
Alexi- who on earth is this Stanley Drucker I keep hearing about? (excuse my ignorance)
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Author: Sea Galan
Date: 2005-02-21 13:51
Easy for you. Difficult for me. Hope that some day I will have the same attitude. Carlos
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Author: music_is_life
Date: 2005-02-21 13:56
oh I don't have that attitude!
note that I wrote:
"[note: I did not invent this, nor do I necessarilly agree with it, just interested in fellow musician's thoughts]"
I don't agree with that staement in the slightest! I was just interested in what a professional or even fellow highschool clarinetist might have to say on the subject
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Author: allencole
Date: 2005-02-21 16:14
I think that the saying does have some value, particularly with younger players who are fighting the instrument. I sometimes say similar things to young students to encourage them to master their basics, so that they can get beyond simply manipulating the instrument.
What they find out, of course, is that this means reallocating that newly freed up attention to their conductor, duet partner, rhythm section, etc.
I think that the overall tone of the saying is very good for the purpose of getting a player's preparation and through processes adjusted for maximum efficiency. If this is not accomplished, musicality will suffer anyway.
Allen Cole
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Author: Dano
Date: 2005-02-21 17:58
That statement is an oversimpified view of the technical aspect of music. Yes, there is a simple aspect to music as in not much changes. As in the technical aspect of language. It's kind of like reading a speach as opposed to listening to a speach. My clarinet teacher used to tell me "This is not a typing class" which to me meant, you need to put your soul into this otherwise it will just be technical preformance. Talent really makes a difference also. Most musicians will eventually realize that music is not that simple, on their own.
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Author: Carol Dutcher
Date: 2005-02-21 21:37
It's real simple if you have the right fingers in the right places at the right time (Victor Borge said that).
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Author: Kevin
Date: 2005-02-21 22:37
And I remember last year when we had that thread on the cello player who degraded clarinet playing as "just put down your fingers and blow". It's remarkablely true to an extent; we all seem to get caught up in so many aspects of what we're doing, sometimes it may help to look at playing music from this POV.
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Author: diz
Date: 2005-02-21 23:12
Interesting photo of Mr Drucker ... obviously he's kept his youthful looks, wonder what his trick is?
Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.
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Author: Todd W.
Date: 2005-02-21 23:24
diz --
Just another benefit of playing a Buffet.
(I understand that GBK, for instance, who has a stable of R-13's, is often mistaken for a younger Julian Bliss.)
Todd W.
Post Edited (2005-02-21 23:25)
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Author: music_is_life
Date: 2005-02-22 01:29
Quote:
Interesting photo of Mr Drucker ... obviously he's kept his youthful looks, wonder what his trick is?
yea- I did the math and if it's correct that he's been with the philharmonic for 50 years (please, correct me if I'm worng- I think I read this somewhere), starting at the age of 19, then he's 69-years-old! he certainly doesn't look it!
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Author: ned
Date: 2005-02-22 01:39
I don't agree with that staement in the slightest! I was just interested in what a professional or even fellow highschool clarinetist might have to say on the subject''
Yeah, there's noting like a good stir occasionally is there? Incidentally.....who is the author of your quote?
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Author: music_is_life
Date: 2005-02-22 01:44
you know, I don't know. I belong to another clarinet board, however, not quite the caliber of this one (I think I am the most experienced, knowledgeable one there, which is sad, since I'm only a senior in highschool) and this slightly ignorant girl was ranting about how people in her band just don't care, and wonder why they even bother to be in band. Then she began complaining about having to learn theory, and soon after stuck that quote in. I commented on it and she claimed not to be the author, so I'm not sure, since she didn't site the source (*gasp!* plagerism!)- however, it came from a b*******, teenage girl who seemed to really be contradicting herself.
yes- I like to try and stir things up, even if I get shot down by GBK
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Author: Kevin
Date: 2005-02-22 02:04
music_is_life, drucker celebrated his 50th year during the '97-'98 season. we are now in 2005. You can add another 7 or so years to that.
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Author: music_is_life
Date: 2005-02-22 02:35
Kevin wrote:
> music_is_life, drucker celebrated his 50th year during the
> '97-'98 season. we are now in 2005. You can add another 7 or so
> years to that.
my! I stand corrected! 76! that picture can't posibly be recent! ...wow...sorry to you "older" people, I just never thought people at that age still played- or had the stamina! I commend them!
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Author: ned
Date: 2005-02-22 07:47
""my! I stand corrected! 76! that picture can't posibly be recent! ...wow...sorry to you "older" people, I just never thought people at that age still played- or had the stamina! I commend them!""
That's young actually - Artur Rubenstein, noted concert pianist, toured the world in his 90s!
Chester Zardis, a swinging slap bass player from New Orleans, did the same - I saw him on TV in Australia.
Noted comic and one-time concert pianist Victor Borge toured the world too in his 90s, cracking jokes both verbal and musical.
There will be plenty of others too. Don't write the oldies off too soon, you will be one eventually - I hope.
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Author: Sea Galan
Date: 2005-02-22 14:22
Hey, MIL, people over seventy not only play music and have the stamina to do it right but like me START learning how to play an instrument as complex as the clarinet. I go to the fitness center every other day, ride my bike for miles, go for long walks when the weather is good and have a very active life. Being "old" is a mental attitude. Think young and you will be young forever or at least for a very long time. Unles you get hit by a Mack
truck. Carlos
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Author: Sea Galan
Date: 2005-02-22 14:25
John Kelly from Australia, please read my post to MIL. Actually it was ment to you and your comments of "older" people. Carlos
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Author: music_is_life
Date: 2005-02-22 15:49
" Being "old" is a mental attitude."
:) that is what I have learned from my mother, who is turning 61 on Feb. "29". She acts like she's still in her 40s. One of my friends thought she was about 47. I love to see "old" people being active because it gives me hope for the future. thanks.
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