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Author: Mike Hancock
Date: 2005-02-17 21:53
I consider myself an advanced intermediate player. That said, I am currently struggling to get quarter note triplets played in correct time (e.g. 3 notes in 2 beats). I feel like I can deal with eighth note triplets (3 notes in 1 beat) or sixteenth note triplets (3 notes in a half beat or 6 notes in a beat) adequately.
Has anyone got some suggestions as to how I can deal with the dilemma of 3 even notes in 2 beats?
Thanks in advance . . .
Mike Hancock
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Author: Bnatural
Date: 2005-02-17 22:29
I don't remember exactly what helped me but I think it was something like this.
When practicing it is their a reason you can't play it like two eighth note triplets?.... even if you don't tonuge it just feel it like that
And I know that some people say drag trip let as if to remind themselves
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Author: cKaSully16
Date: 2005-02-17 22:32
I'm a high school player, so I don't know if this is 100% right or not, but my band director used an interesting but helpful technique. It helps if you test yourself by doing this very very slowly.
given this rhythm:
Quarter 3 quarter note triplets Quarter
A common denominator of 2 and 3 is 6, so subdivide and give each regular quarter note three beats. For the triplets, the first note would get 1 2 (2 beats when subdividing into 3) the next not would get 3 1, and third triplet quarter note would get 23. The last quarter would obivously get 3.
So it would look something like this.
123 12 31 23 123
That may sound complicated, but it really works, and it's helped me get more rhythmic accuracy.
Hope this helps!
"Music is the silence between the notes."
-Claude Debussy
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Author: Dan1937
Date: 2005-02-17 23:07
One of the best methods of counting this I've ever heard - and used with students - is to think the words "not difficult" and make the notes you play coincide with the NOT - DIF - CULT syllables. Try it - it works!
Dan
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2005-02-18 13:58
Mike,
Super-imposing 3 on 2 can always be a little tricky (we always called them "drag-triplets" because that's what you feel you are doing).
Try this and use a metronome and a slow tempo. Play a scale and on each note, play 4 quarter notes; go up and down. Then make each quarter note into triplets instead and go up and down (12 notes per measure). Now, this is the tricky but very important part; instead of thinking 4 beats in a measure, change to 2/2 so that you are at the same speed for the triplets but beating 2 beats in a measure or six notes on each beat (I think you can see where I am going, right).
Now the big test. On each note of the scale, play the 6 triplet on the first beat of the two in each mesure but on the second beat, space three notes (the drag triplet). The first beat will have 6 notes and the second three; continue up the scale.
Once this relationship becomes clear to you, you can then get off into other patterns and scale relationships. The rest is then easy.
HRL
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2005-02-18 17:29
3/2 and 2/3 are easy. First, set a metronome to about 144 and count in 6. Tap both hands on a table on beat 1, tap your left hand on 3, your right hand on beat 4 and your left hand on 6.
Then, set the metronome to 72 and count in 3. Both on 1, L on 2, R on the & of 2 and L on 3.
Then set the metronome on as close as you can get to 48 and count in 2 with 3 subdivisions per beat. Both on 1, R on beat one part 3, L on 2, R on beat 2, part 2.
It's very important to learn to do 3/4 and 4/3. They appear in the Hindemith Sonata and the Bernstein Sonata. If you play either at an audition, you will be severely downgraded if you don't get them exactly right.
For 3/4 and 4/3, you do the same as 2/3 and 3/2, dividing the measure into 12 parts, one hand tapping every 3 beats and the other every 4. The phrases I use to set the rhythm are "I never play guitar" and "Pass the god-damn spinach."
Ken Shaw
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