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Author: woodwind650
Date: 2005-02-02 20:39
I've been in constant battle with a former student of mine. I tell her it's pronounced "Rose", like the flower. She insists on pronouncing it "Rose-ay", as if it had an accent on the E. Any French historians out there who know how the name is pronounced?
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Author: larryb
Date: 2005-02-02 23:24
I've never seen it spelled with an accent on the "e" - so "Rose-ay" doesn't seem right.
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-02-02 23:35
Cyrille Rose
I highly doubt Rosay, but hey - lavoz is always pronunced incorrectly.
Lah - Voohz not La-Vahaaz
That comes directly from Francois Rico - grandson (who lives and who's family comes from France) of Rico who started the Rico Reed Corp which makes the reed.
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2005-02-03 05:08
A lot of years ago when I played them my teacher always said Rosay and not Rose. That's how I say it too, but I'm not french so what do I know.
Either way, the R sounds different and not like the American R in the word Rose.
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Author: David Peacham
Date: 2005-02-03 08:13
If it has an acute accent then it should be pronounced (roughly) Rosay. Otherwise (roughly) like the English word Rose.
In http://www.selmer.fr/images/pdf/debussy.pdf it is spelt without an accent, and I'd guess they probably know.
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Author: Ralph G
Date: 2005-02-03 15:10
She might still be in the habit of pronouncing it like Klosé (klo-SAY).
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Author: SGTClarinet_7
Date: 2005-02-03 16:08
There once was a man named Rose
Or was it Ros-ay? Who knows!
It had us all in fits
as we couldn't pronounce it.
Sometimes thats the way life goes.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-02-03 16:54
Is it Rose, or Rose-ay that gets votes?
Or, perhaps, put the name into quotes.
Who cares what's the sound?
Opinions abound...
Just go play the %$#$#% notes!
...GBK
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Author: Arnoldstang
Date: 2005-02-03 18:10
Several opinions here! I've heard embouchure described as "stick it in your mouth and blow" People go on endlessly about bore oil and what kind of cork grease to use. There are many different approaches to music. Some people are purists and some are pragmatists. If you are just concerned about playing the notes should you not know anything about who composed the music? It's not even a rhetorical question. Maybe it doesn't matter? I've seen people grip their instrument with a vice like grip and play great. On the other hand I've seen others play with maximum relaxation and play like a dream. As I see it you have to weigh the opinions and make up your own mind realizing that in many ways you are wrong. (you do feel however that you are right in more ways) In context the Rose studies are used in classical clarinet idiom. This idiom is for the most part a "fussy" endeavour. How you go from one note to another is crucial. The finesse is paramount and as such you should be concerned about details. That being said it is possible to spend your time concerned over details that are less significant. Overanalyze rather than underanalyze. Even after we learn the correct way to pronounce Rose . This process is still very enlightening. The correct way to pronounce Jean Francaix.... The way to say Louis Armstrong. A rose by any other name doesn't exist! In summary I agree with all the comments offered.
Freelance woodwind performer
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