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Author: Avie
Date: 2005-01-29 02:19
I purchased a Rovner ligature and now my Buffets tone sounds more clean and focussed and is more in tune. It never sounded better. I really didnt think that a hard rubber ligature would make any difference at all in the tone. Now I realize the importance of the material that touches the reed and mouthpiece. Why do they even mfg. those std. steel ligatures. Playing the clarinet is an education in itself ![[up]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smiley24.gif)
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2005-01-29 04:04
The one time I tried a Rovner, I thought my tone got stuffy and it felt difficult to play too. I think the lig choice would have more to do with the mouthpiece choice than the clarinet choice.
Katrina
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-01-29 11:47
Keep in mind that the ligatures vary. The metal ones that come with the clarinets ARE junk - but there are many types out there.
It's pretty much like a candy shop.
Consider trying the BG ligatures. They will blow your mind.
Also the Vandoren Optimum which is what I use. I like both of those far better than anything that Rovner puts out.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-01-29 14:44
In general, I agree, D B !! Over and above "physical improvements" there are psycological factors also. Re: Rovner "types", I prefer mine to be reversed, with the adjustment bars on the edges of the reed, as with my favorites, Bonades/Gigliottis/Luybens. I have "hang-ups" also. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: BobD
Date: 2005-01-29 16:34
I've been using an Eddie Daniels Rovner for over a year and had been relatively happy with it. The "one screw" designs certainly are a lot handier to use! But...after reading the recent exchange on the Bonade ligatures I started thinking about the subject from an engineering standpoint...not that I'm an expert mechanical engineer. A point was made in the other posts that the Bonades are usually not made the way they are supposed to be.....i.e. they tend to touch the edge of the reed. I will add to the prior post but......I made an insert for my Bonade inverted lig and now think I've reached Nirvana.
Bob Draznik
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Author: SimpsonSaxGal
Date: 2005-01-29 18:39
The other day, everyone in the sax section of my jazz band affixed their reeds to their mouthpieces with waterproof medical tape. If applied right, the reed stayed in place and actually sounded pretty good.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2005-01-29 18:49
I'm still a believer in velcro. I try out ligs here or there, but they don't seem to cut it as well as my velcro.
US Army Japan Band
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-01-29 19:04
Bob D - Wanting to see and buy onother lig, I looked on all of my maps for Nirvana, couldn't find it, what state is it in ? Is your insert for between the the Bonade Bars? [inexpensive drinks?], and of metal or plastic? I have several too-large ligs, and decrease their size by masking tape or a cutout of some sticky-side plastic foam. Works ! Momentous subject? Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Bill
Date: 2005-01-29 19:06
I love Lee Gibson's paragraph in his book. "Every device used in a ligature offers its own characteristics, though they mean far more to the player than to the listener. Again, confidence in the product is the player's prime consideration."
Othern than that, less and less I depend on Mr. G.'s musings, particularly about vintage instruments.
Bill Fogle
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Author: Sue G
Date: 2005-01-30 11:56
I'm using a Bonade inverted ligature and am thinking of trying something else - folks seem to be suggesting that the Vandoren Optimum is good - anyone feel that it isn't perchance ?
I've tried the velcro but it keeps slipping !
I play a Bb Leblanc Noblet with a Richard Hawkins student mouthpiece.
Thanks
Sue
:)
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-01-30 12:58
Sue, did you try the suggestion of correcting the defect in the current design?
It will play like a new ligature then.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2005-01-30 13:36
Thanks Don Berger for your insightful comments. Many things in the world are unbelievable until you experience them. I'll be happy to modify your Bonade if you'll ship it to me.
Bob Draznik
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Author: Roger Aldridge
Date: 2005-01-30 15:22
For a period of several years I tried many different ligatures, mouthpieces, and reeds. Step by step, I found the equipment that's a good match for me as a player and the tonal concept I have for each of my instruments. I've come to use silver Francois Louis ligatures on all of my clarinets and saxophones. It's been my experience that a silver FL lig allows my mouthpiece and reed to work together at their optimal level of resonance. More specifically, I prefer the results I get with my FL clarinet ligs using the original type of FL screw with small wheel-shaped screw head instead of the larger and heavier oblong-shaped one that now comes with FL ligs. I was able to get the original type of lig screw from Roberto's.
Anyway, it all comes down to personal preference. There are any number of excellent ligatures on the market. Try a selection of them and see which one you like the best. Then, work with it.
Post Edited (2005-01-30 19:57)
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Author: tnclarinetist
Date: 2005-01-30 18:33
I have a Vandoren Op. on my Clarinet in BG on my bass; both the most powerful I've played.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2005-01-31 00:23
Quote:
I've tried the velcro but it keeps slipping ! Sue,
What I do is wrap the velcro fairly tight around the mouthpiece WITHOUT the reed on it. Then I place the reed on and slip it over the reed and mouthpiece. It should be VERY tight to slip over the reed.
Granted, it's not the material of choice if you need to change your mouthpiece to another clarinet quickly (like going from Bb to A), but otherwise it should keep the reed from moving unless you put a LOT of pressure on it with your thumbs.
If you still have some velcro, it doesn't hurt to give it another shot.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: jArius
Date: 2005-01-31 07:54
I bought a Rovner Open (light? dunno) with my new clarinet, and I think it's the best thing I've ever done for myself. OK, granted I've never played around with mpcs or ligs (not enough moolah) but I definitely noticed a change for the better.
Jeremy Bruins
Proud member of the too-much-time-on-my-hands club.
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Author: Avie
Date: 2005-01-31 14:16
I purchased a Rovener EV0-5. It also states R. Rubber on the box so I assumed that it is hard rubber. I dont know what the differance would be but It is shown in gold but I didnt receive it as such. The Ad states it being "the latest technology and provides all the attributes of current Rovener ligs, I.E. dark, light, MKIII, & eddie daniels I in one single ligature". It is quite an improvement over my previous lig. so thus far I am happy with it. I will possibly try a Vandoren Op. in the future. It seems to be fairly popular favorite.
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2005-01-31 15:24
I don't even use ligatures, I just super-glue the reed to the mouthpiece and when the reed dies I just throw the whole mess away.
I'm kidding, of course.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2005-01-31 21:04
H. Rubber = Hard Rubber . . . (probably)
US Army Japan Band
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Author: Matt Snyder
Date: 2005-02-01 16:42
I second the motion on the BG ligature, particularly the Revelation model. It lived up to that name from the moment I first tried it in 1992 and it still has me amazed (and that was after 4 or 5 years of swearing by Rovner).
Matt Snyder
msnyder@alumni.indiana.edu
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Author: super20dan
Date: 2005-02-01 22:32
for clarinet its hard to beat the bay lig. for sax i like the bg traditional
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