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 slap tongue & staccatisimo
Author: cl_musicene 
Date:   2005-01-22 02:10

Well, I am now playing Tiberiu Olah's solo clarinet, and there are lots of "slap tongue" and "staccatisimo" used in this picece, but I don't really know how to do them. Aren't they all "very short notes"?

Irene

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 Re: slap tongue & staccatisimo
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2005-01-22 22:44

"Staccatissimo" means to play a sharp staccato. Slap tongue is actually something quite different. See:

http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=102313&t=102236

for a description of what it is and how to do it.

Best regards,
jnk



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 Re: slap tongue & staccatisimo
Author: cl_musicene 
Date:   2005-01-23 12:41

Thanks a lot!

Irene

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 Re: slap tongue & staccatisimo
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2005-01-24 16:36

As I hear a slap tongue, little or no air goes into the instrument. Rather, the reed is sucked away from the mouthpiece by the tongue and then slaps against it, producing pitch by a single stroke, continued by reverberation of the air inside the instrument.

I've heard slap tonguing mostly on saxophone. Sigurd Rascher did it very elegantly. Rudy Wiedoeft was a virtuoso at it. There's a good bit of it on the Clarinet Classics CD devoted to him.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: slap tongue & staccatisimo
Author: cl_musicene 
Date:   2005-01-25 07:30

Ken, you said that "little or no air goes into the instrument", does it mean that I don't have to blow air at all? Well I have a recording of Sabin Meyer and she plays the slap tongue blowing lots of air into the instrument. I now know how to do it but it's hard to do it "loudly"; besides, it's hard for me to focus on the tongue and blowing air at same time...

Irene

Irene

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 Re: slap tongue & staccatisimo
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2005-01-25 14:11

Irene -

You can of course combine blowing with slap tonguing. As I understnad it, though, the basic process is putting your tongue on a lot of the reed, arching it down to form a vacuum, using the vacuum to suck the reed away from the lay and letting it to, producing a "thunk" that resonates at the pitch of whatever you're fingering. That's what I've heard from Sigurd Rascher and Rudy Wiedoeft.

Which Sabine Meyer recording has the slap tonguing?

Ken Shaw

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 Re: slap tongue & staccatisimo
Author: studioline 
Date:   2005-01-25 16:45

I don't understand how you create a vacuum?

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 Re: slap tongue & staccatisimo
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2005-01-25 19:06

Put your tongue flat on the reed, from the tip to about halfway down the vamp. Curve your tongue into a "U" shape, creating a vacuum seal against the reed. Pull your tongue down and away from the mouthpiece lay, taking the reed with it. Then, let the reed pop off and slap against the mouthpiece.

Only about 50% of people can curl their tongues into a "U" shape. To do a slap tongue, you probably have to be one of them.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: slap tongue & staccatisimo
Author: John Morton 
Date:   2005-01-25 19:27

There is a good contemporary recording by the Beau Hunks, playing the repertoire of the Whiteman Soctette (a saxophone octet which recorded in the late thirties). There are some good renditions of Wiedoeft tunes, including a slap-tongue extravaganza called "Saxofun".

John Morton

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 Re: slap tongue & staccatisimo
Author: cl_musicene 
Date:   2005-01-26 13:55

It's called Trio Di Clarone in Concert. Sabin Meyer played clarinet trio with I her husband and her brother I guess, and she played Stravinsky's solo piece and Poulenc's double clarinets piece and Olah's solo clarinet.

Well, meighan told me that the vacumm is the same principle as a suction cup against a flat surface. At first I didn't know how to do it, but I understood right away when he told me this.

Irene

Irene

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