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Author: poopsie
Date: 2005-01-15 21:35
I have been trying to find the music for the musical Camelot. (The original broadway music, not the simplified version.) I have been quite unlucky in my searches. Just wondering if anyone had any idea where to look for it. I only need the clarinet music.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-01-15 23:29
Does Tams-Widmark have these performance rights? Show producers, please help. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2005-01-15 23:54
When I played in the NZ Premiere in 1969 it was produced by arrangement with Chappell & Co.
Post Edited (2005-01-16 09:43)
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-01-16 22:43
Correct Gordon, a "Chappell musical Camelot" search turned up some sites. DaCapo has a piano-vocal score, ?for rehearsal? for $50, it ?prob.? is in orchestration keys. There are several "reed books", with sop cl parts in 2-3, in the orch set [my recollection]. If this is what you are looking for, Poopsie, even IF individual book RENTAL is allowed, it will be expensive, this is copyrighted and enforced material !!! This is the extent of my knowledge, I hope some pro "pit players" will help you further. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Terry Stibal
Date: 2005-01-17 03:41
Chappell is what I recall. Last time that I played it was around 1993 or 1994.
The book is a disappointing one from a musical standpoint. It's sort of betwixt and between the "classic" (and boring) musical of The Sound Of Music type, and the "modern" (and more snappy) tunes that you'd see in one like A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum.
And, one of the best numbers in the show (Fie On Goodness) was not in the road show versions that I've played. It's on the original Broadway cast album, and there's a original note (as part of the photocopying process, the one that stinks of photo hypo, used to reproduce the books rented out) that referred to Fie On Goodness on a previous page. But, not in the books sent out.
There are Clarinet I (Bb) and Clarinet II (bass (I think, but don't remember), Bb and Eb) books. The Eb part is a good one for a beginning Eb player, with little use of the extreme range of the horn. The horn is certainly being used for the tone color and not the range.
Another hint for beginning and part time Eb players: take the LH sliver key off and carefully stuff the tone hole with warm paraffin wax. This will reduce the accidental squeaks when negotiating a part in relatively high accidental keys such as the one in Camelot.
One good thing about the show. The first time that I played it I had never had to deal with the Eb horn for any significant amount of time. The "virtual solo" playing that the show involved got me ready for my next Eb part in Company, some two weeks and three rehearsals later. (It's the cute bit in the girl group number Poor Baby in the second act.) There is some good in everything…
But the show had (in the words of one timeless Great White Way critic) "No legs, no lines, no lyrics". A bit of an overstatement here, but Camelot's no Gypsy, much less an Anything Goes.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-01-17 03:53
Terry Stibal wrote:
> Another hint for beginning and part time Eb players: take the
> LH sliver key off and carefully stuff the tone hole with warm
> paraffin wax. This will reduce the accidental squeaks when
> negotiating a part in relatively high accidental keys such as
> the one in Camelot.
I feel that a better idea is to put a thin wedge of cork under the sliver key to stop it from opening on contact. This will prevent an unwanted accidental opening of the key while at the same time it will teach the proper long term finger position ...GBK
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Author: Terry Stibal
Date: 2005-01-17 04:07
For the normal handed person, perhaps yes. When you've got ham sized hands (as do I; great for the family trade of bricklaying but not so good for sax bis key and Eb clarinet use), what you do is to cut down the sliver keys to the minimum necessary. (I've had my sopranos modified down to stubs like my bass has.) Then, you put a little talcum powder between each finger right before you play to cut down on the rubbing.
With a loaned or rented horn, I had to go with the wax as I still bumped the key enough to open it (I tried the wedge trick first). It completely eliminate the "squeak problem" in the blink of an eye.
Didn't Stubbins delete this key from his clarinet "system"? I seldom find myself using it any longer, even if it is one of the "original" keys on the "modern clarinet" of post 1800.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-01-17 18:41
Many TKS, John, your "run-down" re: the reed books [prob. 5] does help, Cl 1 [#3?}, I may have played Cl II [#4] both times, certainly once, as I was complimented on my BC tonality/expression to my delight ! That info plus our warnings/concerns to Poopsie about performance/rental/book-availability should help her, [to P, has it?]. Is there both a Widmark and a Witmark, confusing? To Terry, I'm blessed [cursed??] with small hands, so dont have your problems, but recongnise they exist. To answer your ?, my ?early? Stubbins-Noblet has the sliver Eb/Bb key, I have a copy of his book, Art-Cl'istry, and will try to look for his {highly} opinionated comments, velly interesting what he had to say !! A great way to celebrate a holiday. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: poopsie
Date: 2005-01-18 22:26
I'm still sort of confused about what was being said about the Eb clarinet, but that's okay. I'm just interested in the clarinet II - Bb. I was trying to find the same score that was used in the original broadway performance.
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2005-01-18 23:53
Hi poopsie:
To further clarify:
Reed 1 is Flute (doubling Piccolo)
Reed 2 is Oboe (doubling English Horn)
Reed 3 is Clarinet I (that's just Bb clarinet, no double)
Reed 4 is Clarinet II (doubling Eb Clarinet, Bass Clarinet & Flute)
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Reed 4 is Clarinet II (doubling Bass Clarinet)
Reed 5 is Bassoon (no double)
There are many variations of orchestration on this famous show, so expect anything in the form of a double. I've played Clarinet 1 (doubling Eb Clarinet & Flute), Clarinet 1 (doubling Eb Clarinet & Bass Clarinet), etc.
Listed above, are the "standard" doubles. I hope this clears up your Eb Clarinet worries.
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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