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Author: k_squared
Date: 2004-12-27 21:39
hello,
i purchased a fobes debut mouthpiece about three months ago and the cork has started to come unwrapped. is this normal? it is only being played by my 9 yo daughter several hours a week. it seems to me i shouldn't have to worry about it so soon. a little over an inch has unwrapped. should i go ahead and reglue it myself or will it need to be replaced? it's not damaged or anything.
thanks!
k2
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Author: GBK
Date: 2004-12-27 21:48
I just pulled a Fobes Debut mouthpiece off my shelf and it looks as if the cork is of the synthetic variety.
Certainly try and reglue it.
Eventually, replacing the cork is not difficult or costly ...GBK
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Author: k_squared
Date: 2004-12-27 21:52
thanks GBK...it is synthetic cork. I was surprised when it came with the synthetic, but I still expected it to hold.
thanks again!
k2
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2004-12-27 22:27
Clark is proud of his mouthpieces, even his student line. Drop him a line right away and I'll bet he sets everything square with you.
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Author: ohsuzan
Date: 2004-12-27 22:45
I had exactly the same thing happen with my Fobes Debut. I just got some more (synthetic, preglued) cork and replaced it. I don't have it anymore, because I sent it to the young lady out in Washington or Oregon who had broken her Hite premiere and didn't have any other resources.
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Author: Bnatural
Date: 2004-12-27 23:23
If the glue doesn't work. Take it to your regular tech and have him do it quick, it will cost MAYBE $5, not even..... it should take him a minute or two at the most
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2004-12-28 01:54
Five dollars was what I was charged. And it was fixed while I waited. Very quick, and the cork they put on is STILL on there. So at least it's not a big deal.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2004-12-28 02:23
As a general rule, preglued materials do not stand up well to peeling or sliding forces, which is what they are subject to in clarinet tenons.
A good contact glue, properly applied to a tenon cork, does not fail. This is why repair technicians almost always use contact adhesive.
Unfortunately many manufacturers use something inferior, probably to save a a few seconds of human time, and a few minutes sitting around time, during production. (I do not know what Fobes uses)
I am surprised that any reputable instrument or mouthpiece maker is using a synthetic cork for tenons. This is one of the few places where natural cork is still the best material, and high quality 'filled' cork is now readily available.
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Author: jmsa
Date: 2004-12-28 14:41
When using contact cement, I suggest that you use the water based type, which is low odor, and will not destroy brain cells. It takes longer to set, however it is much healthier.
jmsa
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Author: Terry Stibal
Date: 2004-12-28 15:19
"When using contact cement, I suggest that you use the water based type, which is low odor, and will not destroy brain cells. It takes longer to set, however it is much healthier."
However, it does not have the sweet smell of hexane, one of my favorite hydrocarbons...great stuff and far, far, FAR better than many of the alternative from the environmental and industrial health standpoints.
With the limited amounts of the solvents present in the "non-green" contact cement, and the generally superior results that it gives over the "green" variety, this is one place where I'd add a nano hit to the environment, all the while preventing the problems with the "green" cement in the bargain.
Now, back when they used benzene in rubber cements...THERE'S your good smelling stuff. Too bad that exposures in the 3 parts per million of breathing air range (below the odor detection level, even) will give you all sorts of nasty bladder and liver cancers...
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2004-12-28 23:45
Now where do you put the toluene in the general scheme of things.
MSDS sheets now give such dire warnings for almost every product that it difficult to extract anything meaningful from them.
My contact glue, Evostik (from UK), which I apply with my little finger, contains toluene, which I believe is one of the reasons for its superiority over all other contact glues I have tried.
Doesn't motor vehicle fuel contain substantial amounts of toluene? I am sure it does in my country, but perhaps not in others.
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