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Author: Jeff
Date: 2004-12-22 22:04
I got a buffet r-13 about a year ago from a store called robertos woodwinds about a year ago. I just oiled it recently and for some reason it didn't absorb the oil all too well.(I let it sit for 3 days). I told my band Director this and he told me to put in the serial number in at the buffet website to see if this is a real buffet R-13. And sure enough the site told me that number did not exsist. Can anyone help me our give me any tips on what to do.(it could be possible I put in the number wrong, its 518246) please help!
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Author: CPW
Date: 2004-12-22 22:29
Do not despair.....that aspect of their website does not work well.
I had an E/S buffet from 1930s....for 3 days i got the same response and then suddenly it replied 1932.
The sn you are mentioning is about right for 1 year ago.
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Author: john gibson
Date: 2004-12-22 22:56
Jeff
Not sure about the serial number, but if you oiled that clarinet and it didn't "take"......it's probably because it didn't need to be oiled. The wood can only take so much. How does the clarinet play?
JG
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Author: msloss
Date: 2004-12-23 00:10
That's a heck of a thing to do to a brand-new instrument. Did you consult with Kristin or Roberto before oiling it? I'm sure this will trigger another Shakespearian debate over whether to oil or not, but either way, way too soon. Hope it isn't playing muddy for you now.
And yes, if Roberto sold it to you, it is the real McCoy.
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Author: Vytas
Date: 2004-12-23 02:18
Relax! Your clarinet is not a fake. Buffet site doesn't list serial numbers for relatively new clarinets. Also they DO NOT recommend to oil new clarinets either. Oil just can not get into the wood through the finish. In several years when the finish gets worn in some places the wood will absorb oil, but for now you're fine. The first signs for worn finish will show up inside the barrel. Without finish wood becomes brown in color (stained clarinets). That's the indication that you need to oil your clarinet. All this controversy 'to oil or not' is just because people do not understand the role of the finish on the clarinet. When it's gone you're basically in trouble. Vintage R13s had very unique finish (no longer available) with a proper care this vintage finish can last for 50-70 years.
Vytas Krass
Professional clarinet technician
Custom clarinet mouthpiece maker
Former professional clarinet player
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Author: graham
Date: 2004-12-23 07:47
My instruments are at least 90 years old but I don't oil them. Am I in trouble? The finish (whatever that may have been) must have gone by now. But I had understood that oiling old clarinets makes little if any difference.
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Author: contragirl
Date: 2004-12-23 08:26
Oiling only seems to be an issue if you live in drier climates, I assume. Whenever my clarinet starts looking a little dried out around the tenons is when I oil it, which is once a year. And I use very little oil anyway.
--CG
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Author: Vytas
Date: 2004-12-23 15:16
****But I had understood that oiling old clarinets makes little if any difference.****
You must be joking??
To answer your question would require many pages and I really have no time for this and even if I did, there are still many people out there who still support 'flat earth' theory. So what's the point?
I'm fine with all theories
Happy Holidays
Vytas Krass
Professional clarinet technician
Custom clarinet mouthpiece maker
Former professional clarinet player
All this controversy 'to oil or not' is just because people do not understand the role of the finish on the clarinet.
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Author: nickma
Date: 2004-12-23 19:06
Your serial number is consistent with a newish Buffet R13. Grenadilla wood is incredibly dense, won't need an oil more than once a generation, and won't appear to absorb any. You'd be lucky if the wood took the oilmore than a mm or 2 in depth. Don't oil the bore. It doesn't need it.
Nick
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