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Author: Kyle
Date: 1999-02-22 20:08
I am wondering about the "click" barrels I have seen advertised... the ones that let you tune by adjusting the length of the barrel's tube on the fly. Are they any good? Or just a gimmick?
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Author: Daniel
Date: 1999-02-22 23:46
They are mostly a gimmic. For a studio or jazz clarinetist, they might be alright. But for symphonic playing, they sound like dooky.
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Author: JennyA
Date: 1999-02-23 09:45
I have been using one for the last couple of weeks at the request of our band director. (I am an adult, but I play with our school orchestra of 24 people.) I have to say that I hate the thing. It's given all my lowest notes--which used to be the sweetest--an unpleasant metallic ring. And it's ugly. I am able to tune to the rest of the orchestra however, which is a good thing.
Now I am weighing whether my playing time warrants a search for a shorter barrel instead of the click thing.
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Author: Dave
Date: 1999-02-23 14:36
They are a a good idea for begining clarinets in schools. In makes tuning easier with a large ensemble. But for a seasoned player go for a real barrel.
Jenny if you're looking for a shorter barrel you really don't have to search much. Go to any respectable music store and they should be able to get you anything. You can find cheap barrels or really expensive ones. Depending on your current clarinet, that'll show you what to spend.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 1999-02-23 16:11
I should like to ask for opinions and discussion re: how well should be the bore of the barrel match both the chosen mp and the tenon of the upper joint? Brymer goes into this to some extent on pages 120+ re: the upper joint, but have not found it re: the mp. It makes sense to me that both should be exact and not have a "step" in the entire bore for acoustic reasons. For me, it is only recently that I have been paying close attention to this as a problem when trying out new mp's and barrels. Comments, please. Don
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Author: Daniel
Date: 1999-02-23 16:59
Some people (no exact names off the top of my head) seem to think that a slightly off center bore on the mouthpiece -- creating a minute step in the bore at the mouthpiece and barrel seam -- improves the sound somehow. can't remember whether the theory was that it eliminated ot created more overtones or something.
I, not being big on the physics of sound, can't really remember the good and bad about tone so <shrug>.
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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 1999-02-24 01:16
I also became interested in what the barrel/MP/upper-joint steps affects the tone a few years ago.I thought more larger upstream bore,more resistance.But it may be a misunderstanding.
Moennig barrels bore sizes are larger than the top bore of the upper joint.You can read that in Hite site:
http://www.jdhite.com/
But Moennig tuned MP,barrel,and instrument as a whole.
I bought a Chadash "A"(means smaller bore)barrel and Greg-Smith mouthpiece from Greg-Smith with my Selmer 10SII*.He sells barrel only with his mouthpiece.Maybe he is reaming them.There are "no" steps between MP and barrel.
I compared the tone with Greg MP with the Selmer barrel and with the Chadash barrel.They are incredibly quite different!
Chadash makes the tone include many harmonics(darker tone).
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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 1999-02-24 01:23
Daniel's off center topic made me associate with a mouthpiece tip symmetry.
Although Tom Ridenour insists on the importance of mouthpiece tip symmetry,Clark Forbes has two choices:symmetry and assymetry mouthpiece tips mouthpieces.You can read his assetion in Klarinet sources.
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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 1999-02-24 01:24
Daniel's off center topic made me associate with a mouthpiece tip symmetry.
Although Tom Ridenour insists on the importance of mouthpiece tip symmetry,Clark Forbes has two choices:symmetry and (very slight)assymetry tips mouthpieces.You can read his assertion in Klarinet sources.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 1999-02-24 02:04
Hiroshi wrote:
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Daniel's off center topic made me associate with a mouthpiece tip symmetry.
Although Tom Ridenour insists on the importance of mouthpiece tip symmetry,Clark Forbes has two choices:symmetry and assymetry mouthpiece tips mouthpieces.You can read his assetion in Klarinet sources.
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Read his posts very carefully. His mouthpieces are symmetrical, but he does not denigrate those that are not. There is some rationale for asymmetry, based upon a pressure differential from right to left across the mouthpiece (measured by Don Casadonte).
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Author: Daniel
Date: 1999-02-24 03:05
Hiroshi wrote:
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I bought a Chadash "A"(means smaller bore)barrel and Greg-Smith mouthpiece from Greg-Smith with my Selmer 10SII*.He sells barrel only with his mouthpiece.Maybe he is reaming them.There are "no" steps between MP and barrel.
If Greg was reaming the Chadash barrels then, they wouldn't be Chadash barrels.
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