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 What to read after Pino?
Author: claclaws 
Date:   2004-11-26 12:06

Me again..

David Pino's book recommended here was truly a good guide for me.

What will be the next thing to read? The Stein book he mentioned? I'll be most grateful if you can recommend some other reading materials.

Lucy Lee Jang


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 Re: What to read after Pino?
Author: BobD 
Date:   2004-11-26 13:37

Based on the title I was hesitant to purchase it but I have found that "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Music Theory" to be quite informative. Author Michael Miller, Pub. Pearson Education Inc. ISBN 0-02-864377-1

Bob Draznik

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 Re: What to read after Pino?
Author: Brenda Siewert 
Date:   2004-11-26 14:12

The Stein book is excellent.



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 Re: What to read after Pino?
Author: idahofats 
Date:   2004-11-26 15:00

From personal experience, Peter Hadcock's The Working Clarinetist. From having read excerpts, William Stubbins' The Art of Clarinetistry--the latter being twice as expensive, and occasionally hard to find--perhaps an interlibrary loan?

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 Re: What to read after Pino?
Author: GBK 
Date:   2004-11-26 15:30

I am assuming you are looking for texts dealing with the principles of playing the instrument. In that case, Pino, Stein, Hadcock, Willaman, Thurston, etc... all contain excellent information.

If you want to read about the clarinet from a historical perspective, then Rendall, Brymer, Kroll, Rice, Weston, Brymer, etc... have all written important texts.

For a fairly comprehensive clarinet bibliography, check:

http://www.woodwind.org/clarinet/Resources/Bibliography.html

I would suggest starting a home library and acquiring as many of these as possible to keep for future reference ...GBK

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 Re: What to read after Pino?
Author: D Dow 
Date:   2004-11-26 18:21

The Trouble with Cinderalla by Artie Shaw is a great read about a perspective after success..

The Clarinet by Rendall is very good..

I like the Article by Roger Heaton in the Cambridge Companion but find the Cambridge Companion to the Clarinet a bit dull..

The Clarinet by Rendall is my favorite of all..

David Dow

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 Re: What to read after Pino?
Author: frank 
Date:   2004-11-27 20:52

I recommend the Daniel Bonade book by Kycia and Bonade Workbook by Larry Guy. Both are excellent and give plenty of insight into our "father" of American clarinet playing. Robert Schmidt's four volumes of Clarinetist's Notebook are great too. Also books by Mazzeo, Campione, Peter Hadcock, Russianoff (if you can get them), Stein, and Ridenour. All are great to own and very helpful.

I personally do not find Pino's book good for actual learning about all the aspects of clainet playing. I think it is written in a very old fashioned way and I find that most of the things he discusses in regards to playing, equipment, philosophy are absolutely wrong. Way too much generalization on his part. He consistently makes outlandish statements like "metal ligatures are only good for beginners and amateurs..." or "the tongue should be low in the mouth". I like Pino's book because it's sort of a guilty pleasure for me. It's very entertaining and never fails to anger me and make me laugh. I think it would be a mistake for a beginner or intermediate player to read his book and take some of his philosophies literally. He studied with Keith Stein for 15 years - his only teacher. That is part of the reason for his closed mindedness I think. He is basically a Stein parrot, but Pino's book wasn't even close to Stein's treatise in content, practicality, and helpfulness. I am not judging his personal character, just what I read. He's probably a great guy!

I am curious... where is David Pino today? Has anyone ever heard him perform? Know any former students of his?

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 Re: What to read after Pino?
Author: GBK 
Date:   2004-11-27 21:23

The Kycia book (which actually was her dissertation), unfortunately, is poorly written and still in desperate need of a good editing as the researched material, although invaluable, is often repeated. The format of the book is clumsy and awkward.

At this time, despite the flaws, it still is the best comprehensive summary of the life, the teaching, and the playing of Daniel Bonade.

Bonade's principles and methods of teaching and playing are clearly defined. It takes you into another era, where clarinet playing was taught using very fundamental building blocks.

As many of great instructors of the past 50 years used, taught and played with these same ideas (as set forth by Bonade), this would be an ideal starting point...GBK

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 Re: What to read after Pino?
Author: frank 
Date:   2004-11-27 21:44

I agree with the comment made by GBK about how poorly written the Bonade book by Kycia is. In my opinion, it was written college freshman level, at best. It's hard to believe it was approved by a doctoral committee. The information is invaluable in that book though and I often read it for reference.

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 Re: What to read after Pino?
Author: claclaws 
Date:   2004-11-27 23:27

Thank you all for the recommendations. I jot down the titles and authors for my next trip to ..Amazon.., maybe ..(I'm not so sure where in Korea one can find clarinet-related books mentioned above.)

Frank,
I appreciate your view on Pino book. Again even though I truly enjoyed the Pino book, I share your feeing, because I was also somewhat nervous when reading some of the passages in that book.

The Bonade book sounds interesting.. Till today, the name Bonade only meant ligature to me.

Lucy Lee Jang


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 Re: What to read after Pino?
Author: Ed 
Date:   2004-11-28 03:13

A great place to get clarinet books is at:
http://www.vcisinc.com
They have lots of great stuff. The Stein book is excellent. Many years ago, I read the Brymer book and recall it as a very pleasant read. One of my favorite books that I continually go back to is Mazzeo's The Clarinet -Excellence and Artistry. You can still find some used copies through Amazon. Mazzeo has some interesting ways to approach and explain things. He also was a brilliant mind with a great understanding of the mechanics of the instrument.

I agree with others assessment of the Bonade book. I recall as I was reading it that I also thought it needed some editing. But- the info contained is often worthwhile and not found elsewhere.

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