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Author: sömeone
Date: 2004-11-25 05:34
i've always wondered......
when playing in any sort of ensemble.....
with other woodwinds involved........(i am specifying oboe)
what are things you like to complain about them?
i assume we are all good enough to criticise......hehehehe....
don't be shy, say it loud, and lets hope more of them (non clarineters) can understand and play better together!
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2004-11-25 05:47
I've had the pleasure of playing alongside some very fine oboists. I really have no oboe-specific complaints. It is quite amusing, though, to watch them change colors to orange, then red, then purple during long passages.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: hans
Date: 2004-11-25 13:33
The purpose of this post escapes me.
Now, if you wanted complaints about drummers......
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Author: SuzyQ
Date: 2004-11-25 14:52
The oboist I sit next to is my mom.
~and I love sitting by her.
She's only been playing 2 years, but I'm very proud of her.
--and one benefit of sitting by her is that she always has kleenex for me when I start crying in the middle of reahersal. (Mary...I know you understand!)
Suzy
highschool clarinetist for 3 years and lovin' it.
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2004-11-25 16:39
I had the pleasure to play the Dahl qt. with a Masters Oboe performance student who couldn't count.
With Richard Woodhams as the Coach. Dick probably selected it to stretch the oboist and let her know in no uncertain terms that her rhythm skills needed improvement.
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Author: marcia
Date: 2004-11-25 17:15
One of my biggest gripes about ANY musician, is those who just don't get it-but think they are doing a fine job!
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Author: pewd
Date: 2004-11-25 19:13
>what are things you like to complain about them?
i regard oboes as partners in the symphony i play in.
one must learn to deal with musicians of varying talent levels, and blend in with them, regardless of their talent level, or personality quirks.
fwiw, the oboes in my symphony are awesome, as are most of the musicians i'm privledged to perform with ; i learn something from them every time we rehearse.
any group has talented musicians, and some of less than stellar qualities; one must learn to blend in with all of them. i look for things to praise the others for, 'let those who cast the first stone....'
if i'm going to complain, its about my own failings, whats the point in attacking the others?
paul
principal clarinet, sherman, tx symphony
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Author: Contra
Date: 2004-11-25 20:27
For the past four years, our oboes have had a tradition. And that tradition is to show up only when they are not needed.
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Author: msloss
Date: 2004-11-25 21:51
Throwing stones in glass houses, are we?
I prefer to keep my complaints to myself as a rule. Things have a way of getting back around. A sure way to make certain you don't work in this business is to criticize others, even to those you trust. Until your playing is absolutely beyond reproach, take the wind you'd waste complaining and put it into practicing.
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Author: elmo lewis
Date: 2004-11-25 22:11
Oboists who judge the quality of a piece by the length and importance of its beautiful oboe solos. If there are no solos its a bad piece!
Oboists who will refuse to play a piece because it doesn't have any beautiful oboe solos.
Oboists who are always perfectly in tune and will not adjust to help out a colleague with a bad note, but make everyone else adjust to their out of tune low register.
Oboists who believe that the playing of the tuning note is the single most important thing that happens in a rehearsal.
Oboists who try to turn everything they play into a beautiful oboe solo, even when its not a solo or when its not supposed to be beautiful (for example, the beginning of the Prokofiev Quintet).
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Author: diz
Date: 2004-11-25 22:54
Never ever had a problem with oboists to be frank. The current principal of the Sydney Symphony is as good as it gets, plus she's a lovely person and a charming musician (Diana Doherty).
Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2004-11-25 23:09
You know, I haven't deleted this thread, but I probably should. Why would someone single out a particular instrument?
Seems to me it's much more of a personal problem than a musical one ...
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Author: jArius
Date: 2004-11-26 01:50
Whats the definition of a half step?
TWO OBOES PLAYING IN UNISON!
Yuk Yuk!
I got a million of 'em! Like this one...
How do you make an oboe play an Ab?
TAKE AWAY HIS ELECTRIC TUNER!
I've got plenty about clarinetists, too, so it's not like I'm being an instrumentalist or anything (you know, racist, sexist, instrumentalist).
Jeremy Bruins
Proud member of the too-much-time-on-my-hands club.
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Author: donald
Date: 2004-11-26 08:19
hey Diz- you sure are right about D Doherty, Oboe goddess extraordinaire. But also Ngaire deKorte (sp?) has taken up an acting position. Meanwhile, here in Auckland we've stolen Martin Lee from you Aussies.
complain about Oboe players? hell, down here we're loaded with fabulous players with amazing tone and intonation.
now, i'm sure they (oboists) could easily complain about us clarinet players if they weren't such a lovely bunch!
donald
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2004-11-26 14:18
One of my best friends in orchestra is an oboe player with perfect pitch. She also teaches clarinet and has given me some pointers that are always "spot on." She also knows all the good places to eat when we have a break.
My problem is when the other clarinet player gets out his saxophone.
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2004-11-26 18:18
Donald Peck)Principal Flute of Chicago symphony and Ray Still(Principal Oboe) never spoke to one for over 25 years in the Chicago Symphony...
it was over an incident which occurred in the Orchestra during the 60s...
David Dow
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Author: Dori
Date: 2004-11-27 16:51
I sat next to a flute player who always smoked a cigarette during break. For the rest of the rehearsal I had to put up with the smell coming through her instrument right into my face - and I'm allergic to cigarettes. Also, I doubt it was good for the flute itself.
Dori
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2004-11-29 17:32
Members of the Budapest Quartet barely spoke to one another, and even then only about the music.
If you ever see the film of Marcel Mule playing the Ibert Concertino da Camera with, I think, the Paris Philharmonic, watch for two of the wind players exchanging swift kicks.
You get along as best you can. Marc Lifshey despised George Szell, but played like a god for him.
Go at it indirectly. Blame yourself: "Mary Jane, I'm having intonation problems at letter F. Can we run through it together and find out how to adjust?"
You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.
Ken Shaw
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