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Author: georgE11
Date: 2004-11-08 18:18
I played the clarinet for 3 years when I was young.. then I stopped and now i'm trying to get back into it.. but I haven't played for 13 years.
I'm starting as a student, with grade level 1. I bought a book that came with a CD.. you listen to the songs first and then play them following the musicsheet.
But now I can't play anything that's not on the CD for me to listen to first.. is that bad?
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Author: Carol Dutcher
Date: 2004-11-08 18:32
I'm not sure what music book with CD you are referring to. I use Jamey Aebersole. I couldn't do it either at first. I felt like a nut. But I finally got the picture and once I got going with it, it became easier for me. This takes a lot of time so don't get discouraged. You CAN achieve your goal!
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Author: clarinetwife
Date: 2004-11-08 18:36
Welcome back to clarinetting! If it is a beginner book with CD rather than an improvisational tool like Carol is referrint to, you may be mostly picking up the tunes by ear. This is certainly not a bad thing! You might consider working on your music reading and sight reading skills so you can learn tunes that way as well.
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Author: diz
Date: 2004-11-08 20:04
Get rid of the CD and get a teacher ... simple, my two cent's worth.
Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.
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Author: pewd
Date: 2004-11-08 20:15
yeah i agree with diz, you need to learn to read music, not play by ear.
- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas
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Author: georgE11
Date: 2004-11-08 21:06
I don't play the music by ear at all, I read the music.
But i'm not very good at it.. so I'll have to learn up on that some more..
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2004-11-08 21:48
When you're getting re-started, there's nothing wrong with listening and then playing. You only need to add to it, not take something away.
Start out playing by ear on something easy that you know really well -- Jeannie With the My Country 'Tis of Thee, Silent Night, or even Happy Birthday. Give yourself permission to make mistakes, and just keep going. Let your fingers remember how to play.
Then practice reading simple tunes in your method book. Go as slow as you need to. Once again, read something you already know, so your eyes and muscles remember the associations between seeing something and doing something.
It might help to get a book of simple folksong arrangements for clarinet. Even if you don't have a pianist, you can read through things you're familiar with.
It comes back fast. A little persistence is all it takes.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Irwin
Date: 2004-11-09 00:03
georgE11,
I can relate. When I started playing about 6 years ago after a 25 year hiatus, I too thought I could only play music if I first heard it played by someone else.
Then, I found a great teacher and started over with the basics including learning how to count properly. If you do that, and get a good metronome (I recommend Dr. Beat), there is simply no piece of music that you can't master by lowering the tempo to a rate that suits your ability to read and play. Practice it over and over, gradually increasing the tempo and you'll eventually play the piece (almost) like a pro!
Good luck.
Irwin
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Author: William
Date: 2004-11-09 15:10
Don't worry about it--just do it!! Learn to play the song "by ear"--with the CD, radio, TV, whatever--if necessary, but then, try it again without the accompaniment (just "reading" the notes) and pay close attention to how many beats each note is getting. Eventually, with experiance, you will become more adept at note reading. This is basically the way I learned to read music (without a private teacher) when I was young, and I now enjoy the reputation of being an excellant sight reader who usually plays it right the first time. Just takes a lot of practice, experiance and--sometimes--the courage to take the risk and "go for it".
OK now, A-One & A-Two.........twinkle, twinkle little star............you know the rest--now, play it again, this time looking at the notes.
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Author: georgE11
Date: 2004-11-09 15:30
Thanks all.. that's what I usually end up doing.. listen first, then play it reading the music notes, without the cd.. and then together to make sure i'm matching it all up correctly..
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Author: allencole
Date: 2004-11-09 15:37
Correct me if I'm wrong, George. You are reading the pitches, but need help from the CD to get your rhythms. This is pretty common. These books with CD's are great, but you want to avoid using the CD as a crutch.
My students use the Master Theory Workbook for their rhythm training and they do very well learning the rhythms when not distracted by manipulating the instrument.
A private teacher could help you tremendously with this. If that's not an option for you, visit a music store and see if they have materials for rhythm training. There are some good sets that come with CD which will teach you how to count, and I think that this--coupled with learning a few scales--will give you a good jumpstart.
Allen Cole
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Author: georgE11
Date: 2004-11-09 16:08
Yes, you are absolutely right, Allen.
I will go into a store and pick up a few more books.
Thanks
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Author: Dee
Date: 2004-11-09 19:15
Also, regardless of what book you use, try counting and clapping the rhythms before you attempt to play them.
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