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Author: CPW
Date: 2004-11-03 16:06
What is the exact meaning of the "core of sound"
I see this used as a descriptive term. Does it have an exact meaning acoustically?
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2004-11-03 19:23
Well, there is soft core and hard core. I prefer a cobalt center covered with a soft core and then a hard core. For Brahms I put a layer of chocolate in there positioning it depending on the reed characteristics of that day
;)
Seriously though - core of sound is how focused the tone is. Opposite of core would be fuzzy and unfocused, airy, etc.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2004-11-03 19:26
"His sound was like an old apple - rotten to the core" ...GBK
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Author: CPW
Date: 2004-11-03 23:59
Oh geez.
I was kinda hoping for a frequency distribution analysis and instead I get a fruit basket.
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Author: William
Date: 2004-11-04 14:58
"instead I get a fruit basket"
Welcome to the neighborhood where their is much controversy regarding what is a "good" sound. I am not familiar with the term "core sound" other than it might be the fundamental sound any particular instrument is accoustically designed to produce, minus the harmonic structure sounding above which gives the instrument its own sound or voice. For example, trumpet produces a different overtone series than the clarinet--etc, etc etc--and that is why all instruments have their own sound. These harmonic variations between instruments can be demonstrated (shown) on an occilloscope--which may be the "frequency distreibution analysis" you ask for.
And if I had specific data, I would happily "share a cup" with you--but it is something that I chose to not spend a lot of serious time worrying about. For me--one clarinetist from the "fruit basket" out here in cyberspace--it is simply, "If it sounds good, it is good". Core sound, not with standing.
Have a Great Day, Neighbor!!!!
(Old apple, GBK??? LOL.......but I think you can do better :>)
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2004-11-04 17:04
I've never heard the expression "core of sound." I assume it's the same as a "centered sound." Unfortunately, that's not well defined, either. Several years back, there was a long discussion, with many ideas. See http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=245&t=234.
I think a centered sound has high-frequency content that makes it carry over the front of the stage and to the back of the auditorium. I have heard this quality in the sound of top orchestral players. For example, at a master class, Anthony Gigliotti played the Pines of Rome solo at barely a whisper, yet his sound had such energy that it was no softer at the back of the hall than the front.
The question, then, is how to get this quality.
First, learn to hear the high frequencies. I use the exercise from Keith Stein described in my posting in the earlier thread -- face into a corner, play a loud low E and gradually decrescendo, listening for the B a twelfth above and keeping it strong.
Also, I have found that if I roll my lower lip in over my teeth, so that the outer edge of the red area is even with my teeth, this produces a covered sound, with little high-frequency energy.
Conversely, if I pull my lip out, so that only about half the red part is over my teeth, the high frequencies come into the sound, so it is more plangent, without playing louder. This is not imaginary, since other people can hear the change.
When I roll my lip in, there is more tissue in contact with the reed, and more between the reed and my lower teeth, which damps the vibration of the reed, particularly at high frequencies. The opposite happens when I roll out.
At any rate, when I need to blend with other players, or have an accompaniment part, I roll my lip in, and I roll it out when I have the melody, or need to balance and contrast with other players.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: larryb
Date: 2004-11-04 18:42
I think "Core Sound" was that chant of 4 more years we heard the other night...
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Author: ken
Date: 2004-11-05 01:16
GBK wrote: "His sound was like an old apple - rotten to the core" ...GBK
--I knew a dude who received a BCD from the Marines (for you civilian types a Bad Conduct Discharge or what we old-timers in the Air Force call the "Big Chicken Dinner"). I guess you could say he was, "rotten to the Corps."
Sometimes I crack myself up....v/r Ken ![[tongue]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie6.gif)
Post Edited (2004-11-05 01:18)
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2004-11-06 22:38
I have always felt "core" meant more fundamental to the pitch giving it the feeling of centre and weight..rather then a sound with alot of overtones fighting among themselves....
David Dow
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Author: CPW
Date: 2004-11-07 13:12
Thank you Mr. Dow for coming to the core of the issue.
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Author: William
Date: 2004-11-07 16:48
D. Dow--well put. That is what I was trying to say, but--as usual--my words got in the way.
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