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 tunning a 3rd
Author: will 
Date:   2004-10-27 22:07

I was always told when you play the third in a chord you were to play it flat, but someone today told me the opposite and to play it sharp. I was just wondering if anyone could clear this up for me?

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 Re: tunning a 3rd
Author: Alphie 
Date:   2004-10-27 23:12

Major thirds are to be tuned flat, minor sharp.

Alphie

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 Re: tunning a 3rd
Author: Kevin 
Date:   2004-10-28 01:08

Basically, in Bach and Handel's time, tuning systems were different than they are today. They frequencies of pitches were based on proportions, and resulted in lower 3rds and higher 7ths. However, while this created the most ideal sound, it was a hassle because musicians cannot give concerts with music in different keys unless they retune each time a new key comes up. To solve this, our modern tuning system was invented, in which the distance b/t all of the equal intervals are exactly the same.

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 Re: tunning a 3rd
Author: EEBaum 
Date:   2004-10-28 02:33

Building on Alphie's advice... as for HOW far flat or sharp to go, the ideal is usually to make your sound part of the whole ensemble sound, so that you can barely hear yourself and it becomes color added to the root of the chord. If you can hear yourself distinctly, you're likely out of tune.

-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com

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 Re: tunning a 3rd
Author: Liquorice 
Date:   2004-10-28 06:09

What Kevin wrote only applies to keyboard instruments. When you're playing in an ensemble without a fixed-pitch instrument you shouldn't use equal temperament for tuning chords.

A perfect major third will be 14 cents lower than equal temperament, and a perfect minor third will be 14 cents higher. You can check this on your tuner to see how much you actually need to adjust.

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