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Author: Liquorice
Date: 2004-10-16 15:31
I've been asked to play a concerto with a chamber orchestra. I've already done the Moazrt with them. Does anybody know of any other wonderful pieces out there for this combination?
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Author: bob49t
Date: 2004-10-16 20:13
?Tartini Concertino
Uses only strings - so wind and percussion can nip to the pub for 20mins.
Nice piece not too taxing.
BobT
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Author: RAMman
Date: 2004-10-16 20:23
I had the same question a little while ago...
I settled for the Finzi concerto...and very much looking forward to it.
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2004-10-17 04:08
Doesn't the Copland use a smaller orchestra? One guy won my college's concerto competition with it and performed with the school's chamber orchestra (about 15 years ago...).
Katrina
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Author: GBK
Date: 2004-10-17 04:54
An early Rossini work, written when he was 17 is the "Variations for clarinet and small orchestra in C major" This is a brief work, about 9 minutes in length. This not the more familiar "Introduction, Theme and Variations" written about 10 years later (and which may or may not actually be by Rossini).
The Variations in C major is a student work of average quality and shows Rossini's ease in using the variation format and the use of the upper clarinet register ...GBK
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Author: Liquorice
Date: 2004-10-17 06:10
Thanks for all your suggestions. I'll go and listen to the works suggested. Is the Tartini concerto an arrangement?
I can't imagine doing the Finzi concerto with only 6 violins, etc. I would imagine one needs a much larger string group for the work to sound good. Hope you have more strings for your performance RAMman!
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Author: Tom A
Date: 2004-10-17 11:17
The Tartini Concertino is actually an arrangement, by the English composer Gordon Jacob, of some of Tartini's violin sonatas. I'm only familiar with the clarinet and piano reduction. Maybe Bob knows also where it can be acquired.
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Author: elmo lewis
Date: 2004-10-17 16:59
Johann Stamitz Concerto in Bb for clarinet and strings. It's rental but there used to be an Eulenberg miniature score for sale.
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2004-10-17 20:47
I am doing the Stravinsky Ebony Concerto soon...I think this would be a fun one for you...I am having a blast playing it!!
David Dow
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Author: diz
Date: 2004-10-17 22:46
I wouldn't, personally, play the Tartini ... regardless of how good Jacob's arraqngement is, it is just that.
Don't forget the Stamitz concerti - there's several of them and they are ALL scored for tiny orchestras.
Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.
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Author: Kevin
Date: 2004-10-17 22:53
The Copland concerto, as suggested by Katrina, is indeed for a small group - specifically strings, piano, and harp in addition to the solo clarinet. However, take into consideration that it is of much difficulty for an ensemble to pull off.
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Author: Liquorice
Date: 2004-10-18 12:08
Thanks for all your suggestions. The Copland does use only strings, harp and piano, but like the Finzi, I think one really needs a larger string group than the chamber orchestra that I'll be playing with.
I think that "Domaines" won't go down too well with the (very conservative) audience. Same problem with the concerto by Elliott Carter. I don't know the Henze at all. Is there a recording out there?
I'm thinking of trying out "Gnarly Buttons" by John Adams. Has anybody ever played this piece?
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Author: bob49t
Date: 2004-10-18 12:33
Liquorice,
My Tartini copy is an old Boosey and Hawkes edition.
Actually the thing is only 12 mins long.
As William says it's a "free arrangement of movements taken from two of Tartini's sonatas for violin".
Unlike Diz, I would play (indeed - have done so) this little sonata. I also play great sax quartets arranged from baroque music.
It's ideal for relatively easy playing to nice effect. String parts easy too and it's a winner with an audience demanding "easy listening".
Clarinet gets a chance to show off a bit, but it all sits under the fingers very well.
I don't know where you are in the world, but June Emerson in UK has the clt / piano version. She may be able to source parts.
I have a set of old string parts (unlikely to travel far without collapsing) but haven't had time to source any more.
BobT
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Author: diz
Date: 2004-10-18 22:14
Peter, I've not heard either Arnold concerto, but I have played his viola concerto (damned difficult). I must hunt them out.
Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.
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Author: donald
Date: 2004-10-19 10:04
ok
here's two ideas (both pieces i've played as soloist with small chamber orchestra)
- Concerto in B flat (probably) by Johan Stamitz, quite good music- however the most easily available edition (for Piano) in the US has been butchered by crap editing (and the deletion of a bar in the last mvt.... or is it the addition of a bar? i've have to check my parts). Email me if you want a cadenza for the first or 2nd mvt, or for a run down of "wrong notes" etc in the clarinet/orchestral parts. The horn parts in the orchestra can be easily omited, and the music is easily available.
- Concertino (three mvts) by NZ composer John Ritchie. This has been recorded by Marina Sturm with the NZ Chamber orchestra. A very nice "post romantic" concerto- the first mvt is not quite as "audience friendly" as the Finzi (but still not into Hindemith teritory- to give an idea of relative "modern-ness") but the 2nd and 3rd movements are really quite beautiful and not too difficult either. The orchestra parts have some demanding rhythms, but nothing too difficult- i played it with an "advanced amateur" orchestra (they would probably rather i described them as "semi professional") and they put it together with about 3 hours of rehearsal time (maybe a bit less..... out of a total of about 12 hours for the program).
this work is more technically demanding than the Finzi concerto, but in no place is much more difficult than the Stravinsky 3 pieces.... to give you an idea of difficulty. Email me with any more questions.
keep playing the good tunes
donald
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Author: Tom Piercy
Date: 2004-10-19 12:09
I've played "Gnarly Buttons" and found it to be much easier to put together than, say, the Copland or Finzi. I think the clarinet part and certainly the string parts are easier than either the Copland or Finzi.
I think "Gnarly Buttons" is a great addition to the repertoire as it is "something different" from the standard Mozart, Copland, Weber choices usually made in programming clarinet concerti. It's modern, but not "too" modern for most conservative leaning programmers. Audiences seem to really enjoy the piece.
You can hear a sample of it at the Boosey.com site:
http://www.boosey.com/pages/cr/composer/sample_detail.asp?sampleid=10213
John Adams: Gnarly Buttons for clarinet and small orchestra (1996) 26'
Tom Piercy
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2004-10-19 12:34
The Ritchie has also been recorded by Frank Gurr. You can hear the first minute or so of the first movement of Marina Sturm's recording here:
http://www.opuscds.com/cd/30870
Since no one else has mentioned it, let me suggest Gordon Jacob's "Mini Concerto." (This is not the "Tartini" work mentioned above and, IMO, is much more interesting.) You can hear excerpts of the three movements at Amazon.com. Search on "Gordon Jacob mini" without the quotes.
Best regards,
jnk
Post Edited (2004-10-19 12:46)
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Author: donald
Date: 2004-10-19 19:25
at the risk of sounding like an "apologist" for modern music, i'll mention that the first mvt of the Ritchie is the most "modern sounding"....
meanwhile
has anyone ever played the Alun Huddinott concerto? i did it with Piano when i was 18, and it just occured to me that i've never heard it since!
donald
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