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Author: SGTClarinet_7
Date: 2004-10-15 17:30
We are playing Grand Serenade For An Awful Lot Of Winds and Percussion next week. Does anyone who has played this before have any comical but tasteful jokes and what-not that we can incorporate into the performance? My Commander has never played this before and wants to know, so I thought I'd ask all of you. Thanks!
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2004-10-15 23:45
Hi SGT:
I've been in the PDQ Bach Orchestra for about 25 years, and was a Juilliard
with Peter Schickele when he "invented" PDQ Bach. Our concerts have always been filled with Peter's clever sight gags and great musical spoofs.
Check out his website at:
http://www.PDQBach.com
You'll probably get some info for your piece on that site.
For further info directly from the Maestro, try emailing him at:
nitsopro@earthlink.net
Also there a quite a few CDs available of many of PDQ Bach's musical gems.
Good luck, and have fun,
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
Post Edited (2004-10-15 23:46)
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2004-10-16 01:18
Having seen/heard PDQ/PS several times "rite hear in River Cyti", let me suggest your finding/reading [in part??] "The Definitive Biography of PDQ Bach [1807-1742 ? ] " 1976, Random House. Section 1 after about 10 pgs of "intro", is "history". Sect 2, Pictorial Essay has 52 "Plates" with commentary. Sect 3 "In Search Of" with some "snippets of composition", Sect 4 "Such a Horrid Clang" [catalogue] . I know this is "overkill" to your request, but pick out some "goodies" for your needs. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Lisa
Date: 2004-10-16 03:08
Hi Sarge!
I loved and hated the piece at the same time--and I've only played it for 2 high school festivals and a community band concert, all long ago! I don't ever remember us playing the very beginning correctly, when different sections are supposed to come in a half beat apart (ours always sounded unison), and I'm wondering what that really sounds like when played as written???
This is a little sophomoric, but one of the kids from another school told us that they were able to sneak another " clear liquid" (vodka?) into someone's cup of gargling water. I doubt that would go over real well with adults, but I did want to share that!
Here's a gag that the audience actually loved. Our community band director was a real nut, and he somehow got this Bachlike costume, with tails and wild-haired gray wig. When he was backstage between numbers putting on the costume, our concertmaster played the part of confused band member--where did he go? The show must go on! So he conducted the first movement, and our conductor slowly made his way onstage in character, and accepted the baton from our concertmaster. I guess this must've been the last piece on the program.
I also remember how the conductor played into the part when the percussion dropped crash cymbals ("heavy metal objects") onto the stage floor near the beginning of the last movement. He put his head in his hands as if to say "Those percussion idiots drive me crazy!" before the laughter died down and he resumed conducting.
Let us know what happens!
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Author: Bigno16
Date: 2004-10-16 04:50
As a member of the Brockton High School Concert Band, I am proud to say that I think we have done the best job possible with this piece.
In the first movement, after the repeats, we have a rubber chicken thrown across the stage into the band from the percussion area as you hear the sound of the duck being shot (slapstick, I believe). At the exact moment, we also have one of the percussionists pop open a bag of feathers, simulating the "remains" of the bird floating down upon the band.
In the second movement, right on the last note of the jumpy saxophone part, the trumpets do the wave from one end to the other. Since this is repeated 3 times, the first time they do it from say last trumpet to first trumpet, then first trumpet to last trumpet, then both ways splitting from the middle.
Also in the second movement, when the woodwinds are playing on their mouthpieces with the tubas on the downbeat, the tubas (provided you have more than one) alternate standing up and kind of crouching (sitting down would be too difficult), so while one is up, one is down. And we even added that one tuba could purposely mess up a little bit at the end of that phrase and then the one who played correctly could turn towards him and honk the last note, as if angry with him. Same with the repeat there, except the other tuba plays correctly. And then the clarinet section stands up and gargles a Bb for the end of course.
(We ommitted the third movement)
For the fourth and final movement, we saved the best for last. For the four drumrolls, have a different drummer (if available) play each roll. The first roll should be played awfully. At the end of the roll (after the symbol crash), the band members "converse" with each other quickly, making facial expressions and hand gestures and selected people will hold up signs with numbers such as 0, 1, or 2; simulating judges of a contest. The next drummer does the same, a little better of a roll, but still pretty bad and uneven. The band members do the same, but this time hold up signs of around 2, 3, or 4. The next drummer will do the same, doing the very best, even perfect roll. He will then receive a score of around 7 or 8. However, the last drummer, which could even be the very first again, plays the last roll. He still plays it awfully, but with all the other percussionists are crowding around him, very closely, anxiously observing. When he finishes the roll with the symbol crash, he throws his arms up/back in a manner in which everyone behind and around him is knocked backwards or down and into each other, preferably knocking over equipment as well (hence the Crasho Grosso). We stacked up 2 old bass drums behind them, and we were also on risers too, so the drummers fell into the bass drums and off of the risers, out of sight. As everyone falls, the band members hold up 10s, which usually gets an even bigger reaction from the audience. After this, the drummers then resume into the rest of the fourth movement.
^^Also, our drummers really got into it (acting). They gave each other high fives and nods or head shakes after each had gone and when the best roller went, he even took off his concert jacket, getting a huge applause from the audience. Our conductor also added to this acting in between, saying things like "Can anyone actually do a roll?" and "You sure you can do it?" when the last guy went.
When the trombones take the melody which sounds like it would be used at a homecoming or a type of school spirit thing (I can't really remember), some of the drummers come out dressed like cheerleaders (not extensively) and do their own little dance and choreography with their pom-poms. Ours even went so far as to grab our conductor and do a kick-line with him until the band moved onto the next section to which he pretended to angrily send them off the stage and resume his conducting.
On the upbeat before the gypsy-like melody by the woodwinds, a saxophone player or about 5 of them come out on the front of the stage and play a very loud, low foghorn type "BA!!" <--that's the best I can describe it, sorry. lol
As the clarinets play the gypsy-like melody the rest of the band moves their heads and upper bodies around in circles (simulataneously), as if being put under a trance. When the chime is hit, everyone stops dead center, with the body vertically up. But when the melody resumes, the band does the same thing except they do circles in the opposite direction.
When the trumpets do the extremely random horse-call, we even had one of our band members put on a cowboy jacket, hat, and "ride", or galop rather, across the stage on one of those wooden stick horses (the ones with just the head). This got the best reaction from the audience, it was hysterical.
Those are our methods of doing this piece. I wish you could see it. We're a silly, but extremely good bunch of kids. Hope you like the ideas.
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Author: jez
Date: 2004-10-18 16:58
John J. Moses,
From time to time one comes across people on this BB who command respect or even envy, but in your case you win my abject, undying, heartfelt admiration and thanks.
The PDQ Bach orchestra has kept me amused for many years and I am deeply honoured to have the chance to communicate with someone closely associated with the Master.
Please pass on my fondest regards to Professor Schickele and all those involved and assure them that there are musicians all around the world who love and appreciate all they have produced.
How do you manage to perform? I can't listen to his works without breaking into uncontrollable laughter. It must be such fun to do.
Long may you continue.
jez
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Author: diz
Date: 2004-10-18 22:13
I love PDQ Bach ... especially the send up of the 1812 with pop guns and balloons bursting ... most amusing.
Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2004-10-19 04:14
Thanks for your kind remarks, jez.
I has been my pleasure and extreme honor to have played for Maestro Schickele for all these years. It is indeed difficult not to "lose it" during his hilarious concerts, but we try hard, and we've seen and heard all of the gags before (well, maybe not ALL of them), so we're not as primed as the audiences that hear us for the first time.
In a recording studio with Peter, well, that's another thing altogether! On our CD, "Two Pianos are Better Than One," I had to do the Gershwin - "Rhapsody in Blue" gliss...in the middle of the Concerto! Peter broke me up so many times, that by the time it came up, I was so wasted that I just blew the end off the solo...he loved it! Give it a listen, I was a one take solo that I'll never be able to do again. Thanks for the memories, Peter.
(TELARC CD #80376)
BTW diz:
"Don't be afraid to try something new. An amateur built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic ..."
I also did "TITANIC - The Musical" on Broadway. There are some way better stories there! And I survived the TITANIC to live to tell the tale.
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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