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Author: Celeborn
Date: 2004-10-06 01:24
I was wondering about the pros, cons, and differences between the Fobes San Francisco and Hite D mouthpieces. I also know Fobes makes a barrel. Is it worth it to buy that as well? Does that go with the Hite mouthpieces? Ditto with the Hite ligature. These clarinet things are worse than computer hardware. Also, are there other similar mouthpieces that I'm overlooking?
Thanks.
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2004-10-06 01:53
Yes - I would suggest getting his Barrel also. The straight up barrel that comes with the Buffet (assuming that you play Buffet) compared to a non-straight (tapered) barrel can be significant.
Both Mouthpieces are based on the Chedeville design (correct me if wrong, I'm pretty sure that fobes is also based) and both are very, very good.
The Hite has been backordered for months (I have students waiting since March for theirs!!)
You really have to try both and see what works for yourself. Just because I may love both, or one doesn't mean that the other one is any less effective, good, etc - it's what works for your physiology and your setup that counts, not what I think.
Fobes barrel would go with the Hite, but you should really try both yourself on your setup.
And listen to your teacher's suggestions about em too.
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Author: Ed
Date: 2004-10-06 02:05
Fobes stuff is great. I play Clark's mouthpieces and highly recommend them. They are well designed and very well crafted. Top notch in all respects.
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Author: Celeborn
Date: 2004-10-06 02:24
So, for the Fobes San Francisco, which of the facings do you think would be best for symphonic band/orchestral?
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Author: hartt
Date: 2004-10-06 05:17
Both are xclnt mp's. I've tried 2 Hite's and didn't care for them.....again, personal preference and my set ups.
I've had convos with Clark and he's come out with a new mp. It's a Kaspar Cicero based on his own mold and alot more. You can look on his web site or if need be, phone him.
He alos makes a CF Alto sax mp ![[grin]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie5.gif)
Yes, his SF models are based on Chedville style blanks. I use his eefer mp and it's fantastic on 2 of my 3 eefers. I have a Bay MOM eefer mp that is great and used on my other eefer. Again , it gets back to setups. (then again, I have a Lelandais eefer stamped Harold Freeman and it's makes any eefer scream. It's mint and I'm afraid to use it)
Yes Clark does make a bbl . I believe it is different than the older style he made wherein he used a hard rubber insert.
Know that Clark no longer sells direct to the public. You need to go thru WWBW, Muncy, IMS.
www.clarkfobes.com
www.jdhite.com
Both web sites will provide you with specifics such as: models, tip openings, facings , etc.
Since these maker's mp's are 'custom' try different models. Then, when yuou find the model you like, order (trial basis) more of the same model. Then, select the best of the lot.
...............and remember, not all hard rubber blank material is the same.
regards
dennis (:o)
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Author: Ed
Date: 2004-10-06 11:55
Of course, which facing you use varies a lot as to your own personal preference for the feel you like. Currently I am using one of Clark's CF+ facings on his Zinner blank. It works great-tunes well, responds beautifully, and is very reed friendly. If you have questions, you can email or call Clark directly. He is very knowledgeable and easy to work with. His new Kaspar style is also very good, you would have to try and see what works best for you. You can contact Muncy Winds and they can send you a few Fobes to try. They are also great to work with.
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Author: Celeborn
Date: 2004-10-06 17:57
Great and thanks. I just found out about Cicero series, it seems to be new. Has anyone tries one of those?
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Author: hartt
Date: 2004-10-07 05:19
I doubt any of these models have been tried yet. According to Clark, they are his newest/latest.
Perhaps by this date, they may have 'hit' the mail order places.
Call one and have your name put on the reserve list. Thus, when received you'll be shipped one.
regards
dennis (:o)
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2004-10-07 14:38
Clark Fobes's page is at http://www.clarkwfobes.com/Homepage.html.
The Hite page is at http://www.jdhite.com/.
Remember that David Hite passed away about a year ago. This may account for the slow delivery. Also, part of the mystique was his personal touch in finishing the mouthpieces. I haven't heard any reports on mouthpieces made since his death. John Moses plays a Hite custom mouthpiece. Perhaps he will have something to say.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2004-10-07 19:32
David Hite's mouthpieces replicate the sound and especially the "feel" of the Chedeville mouthpieces of old...they are not reproductions of Kaspar model designs.
They have a ringing pure sound and tune very well...I find the D facing to have the roundest and deepest sonority out there...
Half the battle is getting to choose rather than try one off the shelf...
I believe it's better to pick two out of a batch of ten then simply get one mouthpiece that you end up not having anything to compare with!
David Dow
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2004-10-08 04:41
Hi Ken:
Thanks for remembering David Hite.
"Remember that David Hite passed away about a year ago. This may account for the slow delivery. Also, part of the mystique was his personal touch in finishing the mouthpieces. I haven't heard any reports on mouthpieces made since his death. John Moses plays a Hite custom mouthpiece. Perhaps he will have something to say."
I've played on a custom HITE for about 20 years. David, Jean, and I worked on a long and fairly close facing that would allow me to do all the types of playing I'm required to do here in NYC. He named the facing: JJM, and I believe some of those are still around. Many of the HITE mouthpieces are excellent, as are the Kaspars, Chedevilles, and Fobes. It really boils down to testing each mouthpiece to see if it can help you play your best.
Working with an expert craftsman, like David Hite, was an honor and a privilege, and I'm grateful to have known him.
If you can find a current great mouthpiece craftsperson, then go for it!
Until you find your special person, try lots of mouthpieces, and whichever one jumps out at you as "the one," grab it, and practice...practice...practice.
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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