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Author: OpusII
Date: 2004-10-06 06:50
I’ve searched the archive but couldn’t find much information on them, I would like to know if anyone has tried them. I know already that they’re very expensive, but they should also last a very long time…..
What’s you’re experience with them and can they be fit on every clarinet?
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Author: Tara
Date: 2004-10-06 17:27
I have Straubinger pads on my flute, but am unfamiliar with using them on clarinet. (My R-13s have cork pads). The Miyazawa website has some great information on them:
http://www.miyazawa.com/articles/other10.htm
If someone knows how to make this a clickable link, please go right ahead!
Tara
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Author: Ralph Katz
Date: 2004-10-07 16:44
My dad had them put on his clarinet. They are good pads. Since he passed away, this instrument has been my spare.
My own clarinet is Brannenized (the Brannens are a sponsor of this board), and it plays better than my dad's, although my dad's horn was perhaps a better instrument to start out with. I suspect that the this is mainly because of general adjustment issues, but haven't had time to deal with it. No time like the present, huh?
I have also played on work done by Tim Clark in Columbus, Ohio and his pads are also excellent. Both Mr. Clark and and the Brannens may make their own pads, I don't know for sure.
There is no way to compare the effect pads will have on an instrument unless you can find people who have them installed and are willing to let you play on them.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2004-10-07 22:00
Straubinger pads are great on flute. They cover with feather-light finger pressure. They're difficult to seat, though, and Straubinger won't sell them to you unless you've gone to the factory and taken a course.
There are several people who put them on clarinets, but the rim on a clarinet tone hole is quite different from the top of a flute chimney. Also, flute pads are a uniform size, the action of flute keys is uniform and very short, and the mechanism has practically zero play. Clarinets have varying key lengths, some of them quite long, and often have play in the mechanism. With the seating so critical, and the Straubinger pads (as I understand it) very hard, any variation in where the pad comes down would be disastrous.
I'd give anything to have a clarinet with a mechanism like a flute, with all the keys short and the same size, and everything precision-mounted on a single rod (not to mention a silver body), but it'll never happen.
Top technicians like Tim Clark and the Brannens stay with handmade felt pads. I assume (but don't know) that they vary the hardness of the felt to find the best balance between resilience and precision. The last thing they want is clarinets coming back because a minute variation in adjustment makes them unplayable.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: L. Omar Henderson
Date: 2004-10-07 23:31
About two years ago I bought an Amati 604 and had Graham Golden install Staubinger pads from the beginning. I am thrilled both with the clarinet and the quietness and good seal of the pads. I am not a technician but have heard that they must be installed by an experienced person.
The Doctor
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Author: Ralph Katz
Date: 2004-10-09 13:10
I don't see the Amati 604 listed.
Aside from the left-hand Eb/Ab lever and the low Eb, what are the differences betwee the 604 and the currently listed 605II?
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Author: brsmith
Date: 2004-10-09 22:26
I have Straubinger pads on my R13. Straubinger himself installed them. They have been on the horn for approximately ten years and still do the job.
Bruce
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Author: donald
Date: 2004-10-10 00:43
i believe that Gordon (a repair person who frequently posts) installed some of these on a clarinet for Peter Scholes in about 1991, maybe a bit later. I think one complaint that Peter had was that if water got in the hole of a key that was sprung to open, sometimes the pad would stick shut for a bit before springing up. i distinctly remember this happening to his F/C key when i was next to him in orchestra.
if others say they work then fine..... (i am one of a couple of players i can name with greenback pads on the "open keys", yet one good friend of mine says she won't use them for the same reason listed above.... i've never had that problem at all ?????
everybody can have their own opinion, eh?
donald
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Author: OpusII
Date: 2004-10-13 20:52
I've tried them today, installed on a Buffet Crampon RC 1112Z. To compare it I toke with me my old Buffet Crampon RC 1112Z (Gore-Tex pads) and a new out of the rack Buffet Crampon RC 1112Z (Standard pads).
I was amazed how great they played. It felt more stable when pressing down a key, I think because they are harder. The sound was just astonishing. Completely without fuzziness and a perfect sealing. You can play harder and louder then the standard pads, without any problems.
I already made a appointment with a local tech. to get them installed on my Leblanc Opus II, I’m trilled to play on them….
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