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Author: Jen L.
Date: 2004-09-16 00:27
Hi,
My orchestra is playing the Franck Symphony in d minor, and I'm on the bass part. Does anyone know if a treble clef part for the bass clarinet exists at all? I've called Luck's and Kalmus, and they both only have it in bass clef. Anywhere else I ought to try? I thought I'd see if such a part exists before resigning myself to the headaches.
On a related note, the Luck's catalogue says that they have a transposed bass clarinet part, with the original in Bb. I'm curious...what on earth did they transpose it into? The customer service person I talked to didn't know.
Thanks much,
Jen L.
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Author: donald
Date: 2004-09-16 01:31
maybe they transposed the part so it can be played on "Bass clarinet in A"
now wouldn't that be a hoot!
donald ;-]
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Author: GBK
Date: 2004-09-16 02:18
The Franck D minor Symphony has the original part written for Bass Clarinet in Bb reading bass clef. Therefore, the key signature on your part is 1 sharp (E minor).
No transposition is needed - just read the bass clef part as written.
It could have been worse (bass clarinet in A, etc ...) ...GBK
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Author: Jen L.
Date: 2004-09-16 12:30
See, Donald, that's what worries me--someone took a perfectly good bass clarinet part and transposed it into bass clarinet in A? That's just mean....
Yes, my part is bass clarinet in Bb, bass clef. I was just wondering if there was an edition in treble clef
Jen L.
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2004-09-16 13:53
If I were you, I think I'd explore this further. As I look at the key signatures, particularly in the third movement, I can see that someone might have transposed parts of the symphony for an A bass clarinet to put it in an easier key (particularly for a simple system clarinet). Still, depending on how knowledgable the person was that you were talking to, the "transposed" part might mean "transposed" to treble clef.
Does Luck's also have transposed parts for the first and second clarinets? If so, I suspect that the likelihood that the "transposed" bass part is in treble clef goes down. If not, however, I think that the likelihood that "transposed" means "treble clef" goes up. I'd call them back and, if the customer service person doesn't know what the part is, I'd politely ask to speak to someone else who does.
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2004-09-16 14:46
It's very easy as bass clef bass clarinet parts go --- just play it as written --- a good starter piece for your future career as an orchestral bass clarinetist.
When you're ready for a challenge, try Ravel's "La Valse".
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Author: mystery science dieter
Date: 2004-09-16 15:05
>>>It's very easy as bass clef bass clarinet parts go --- just play it as written --- a good starter piece for your future career as an orchestral bass clarinetist.
When you're ready for a challenge, try Ravel's "La Valse".<<<
That one will sure sound odd if you read it in bass clef.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2004-09-16 15:26
Yes, the D Minor is a challenge to all [winds etc?]. We tried to play it with a small orch, I "fought" the oboe and Eng Horn !!! parts, it is {always ??] difficult to play WELL. In memoriam tenere ! Much luck and practiceX3, Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: gsurosey
Date: 2004-09-16 18:13
I've played this piece before (I played 1st clarinet on it). I think we got the music from Luck's. The bass part was, as you have, in bass clef. The 1st and 2nd parts I believe were only in Bb.
Rachel
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2004-09-16 18:47
mystery....
As I recall the La Valse bass clarinet part was in bass clef for bass clarinet in "A" --- as a high-schooler I had to play it in a community orchestra and I seem to remember transposing the entire piece by hand to treble clef/Bb instrument, a whole lot of notes!. Maybe my memory is faulty -- correct me if I'm wrong about the piece.
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Author: donald
Date: 2004-09-16 21:02
meanwhile
i was in fact joking about the A bass part.....
a nightmare scenario conjured by my imagination
and nothing more
donald
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Author: diz
Date: 2004-09-16 23:58
My suggestion: do not transpose this into treble clef ... a total waste of time - especially as it's for B-flat bass ... once you get into the swing of it and get to know where the notes sit ... it becomes second nature.
Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.
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