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Author: Harrison Faulkner
Date: 2000-01-11 01:45
Some one please help me. I have tried eveyone and everything. Can anyone tell me a price and age estimate on my clarinet? It is a R-13 wood Buffet clarinet. the serial number is K7708. I *think* it is 53 years old. thanks
Harrison
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Author: Kim
Date: 2000-01-11 02:06
I have a 70 year old R-13. I would guess that mine is anywhere in the range from $800-$1000 since it has been well maintained.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2000-01-11 02:21
K7708 isn't in the Buffet listing - get a magnifying glass out and really study it.
7708 would be 1931.
Kim & Harrison - if your clarinets were made before 1954 or 5 then they're not what we think of when we say "R-13". The polycylindrical R-13 was produced in quantity by Buffet starting in the 1954-1955 timeframe.
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Author: Dee
Date: 2000-01-11 02:21
Harrison Faulkner wrote:
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Some one please help me. I have tried eveyone and everything. Can anyone tell me a price and age estimate on my clarinet? It is a R-13 wood Buffet clarinet. the serial number is K7708. I *think* it is 53 years old. thanks
Harrison
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For some reason, I cannot find this type of serial number in the list accessible through this bulletin board. With a serial number like this, however, it is not the classic R-13 (i.e. polycylindrical bore introduced in the 1950s) that people generally mean when they say R-13. However it could very well be an earlier professional Buffet model.
No one seems to have exact data on the serial number for the first R-13, but it is estimated to be around 50,000.
Some time ago there was a thread on the bulletin board about a series of Buffets that had special designations in the American market. One of these designations was R-13 but it was *NOT* used elsewhere in the world and was *not* the polycylindrical bore design introduced in the 1950s.
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Author: BAC <--- used to be Barry
Date: 2000-01-11 02:39
Hmmmmm......My serial number is K5733. It is a Master Model
and says "Evette & Schaffer" Modele Buffet - Crampon. Does yours have such markings?
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Author: J. Butler
Date: 2000-01-11 02:50
I agree with BAC. Buffet used to mark their "Master Modele" with a K prefix on the serial number. It sounds like to me that this is a Master Model that somehow escaped the factory without the stamp. I've seen a few of these horns, one just in the last week or so. At first I thought it was an R-13 until I saw the "K" prefix to the serial number. To me some of them play just as well as the R-13.
J. Butler
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2000-01-11 03:14
If it's a Master Model then it will be marked as such. We had a thread on this recently; Francois Kloc confirmed that the Master Model was an R13 that didn't meet cosmetic requirements. See <A href=http://www.sneezy.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?id=14950>http://www.sneezy.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?id=14950</a>.
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Author: paul
Date: 2000-01-11 18:14
Just as an aside, I've seen a real beat up R-13 that by no means would meet anyone's cosmetic requirements. The pro had done a lot of "customizing" on his horn throughout the years. That horn was outright U-U-GLY (reference to Lion King movie phrase). No pawn shop in town would give even $5 for what initially looks like a beat up piece of junk. But could that horn play! Wow! So, don't let looks fool you. If you can get a horn that plays great and looks okay for a terrific price, I'd say jump on it with both hands and feet.
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