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 Bore/pad conditioner
Author: LizPA 
Date:   2004-09-08 20:13

Have any of you heard of this?

http://www.chem-pak.com/music/music.htm (bottom of page)

A local music store is no longer carrying bore oil...only this. It is an aerosol.

The person who brought it to the local community band practice the other night said the salesperson told her to spray it once a week into both ends of bore, that it would replace need for bore oil. The label said it would condition pads, prevent leaks, prevent cracks.

The additional literature is mainly chemical & environmental info.

Any thoughts?

Liz



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 Re: Bore/pad conditioner
Author: hans 
Date:   2004-09-08 20:50

Liz,
IMO this is not suitable for bore treatment. The LPG (read propane) propellant could chill the bore and cause it to crack.
Alkylate is a high octane gasoline component. I can't see how it would benefit a wooden instrument.
I don't recognize the other components but the Doctor probably will when he reads about it.
Regards,
Hans

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 Re: Bore/pad conditioner
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2004-09-08 20:53

See sponsor "The Doctor's Products" re: his bore conditioner --- I've been using it for a few years now and I believe his scientific approach to clarinet products is more effective and less risky to the instrument than the marketing approach used by most other manufacturers. Not to say that the aerosol you're looking into is necessarily bad, but do you want to entrust the health and welfare of your clarinet to something like that?
Anything that "does it all" (conditions the bore, prevents leaks, polishes the dog's coat and eliminates world hunger) is suspect, in my book.

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 Re: Bore/pad conditioner
Author: L. Omar Henderson 
Date:   2004-09-08 21:24

(Disclaimer - I make a plant derived bore oil and pad cleaner and conditioner)
The ingredients are not IMHO good for the wood - especially the 90 + percent vehicle and propellent. As mentioned these are very volatile substances as used in spray paint cans to just leave the paint behind. In contact with wood they will destroy the structure and matrix of wood over time. I should not think that they would be good for the pads either. The "organic and inorganic" portion may be OK but they do not spell this out (well neither do I) but it comprises less than 5% ( <5% can mean almost nothing) of the active ingredients. The dimethylsiloxane belongs to the silicone family with many relatives that are used for different purposes which could include waterproofing the bore and/or the pads. The total active ingredients comprise less than 6 mL out of the total 60 mL. Depending on the silicone polymer it could build up over time on the wood and pads - potentially causing further problems.

We have discussions on the use of silicone polymers and organic oil polymers before and my inclination is not to use them but infuse the wood, as they do at the factory, with a plant derived oil mixture which will allow the wood to "breathe" and exchange moisture - mostly keeping it out however.

I have not used the product so my advice is limited to experiments with like compounds on wood and pads but that is the limit of my experience.
The Doctor

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