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Author: Ben
Date: 2004-09-03 06:47
I have been use to playing the Variation de l'oiseau de feu out of the Peter Hadcock book, but I recently was sent a copied part in the mail with a couple of the trills marked differentely. The new part has the high C trilling a half step 2 before 10, and 2 before 16, whereas the Hadcock edition the trills are full step. Is this due to different revisions of the work (I think Stravinsky revised it at least once), or is one of the parts I have in error?
Either way, since the copied part was sent for an audition, that's the one I ought to play, right?
For a future audition where a part might not be sent, is one way more prefered?
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Author: jez
Date: 2004-09-03 12:08
I believe the mistakes probably come from the transposition from the original D clarinet part.
I've recently performed this piece and seem to remember that ALL the trills (at least in that solo section) are semitones.
jez
Post Edited (2004-09-03 12:08)
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Author: Brad
Date: 2004-09-03 17:21
There are several editions of the part with different trills, notes, and the infamous measure from the flute part. You are right in assuming that you should play what they send you. I have also played auditions where the list specifies the edition. If the edition is not specified, it is perfectly acceptable to call and ask. I seem to remember seeing the McAlister edition specified on a few recent lists.
Brad Cohen
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2004-09-03 18:40
Always play what they send you as that's what they are expecting to hear you play and the notes that they want to hear.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2004-09-03 18:58
I assume you are playing the 1919 version of The Firebird.
Good advice to play what has been sent to you, regardless of edition or wrong notation. (ex: the piccolo/flute passage in the clarinet part before #14)
For the record; The Kalmus edition from 1985 (edited by Clark McAlister) comes the closest to fixing the mistakes in the clarinet part, but it is not perfect.
Consult the Hadcock book as it is the best source for a corrected clarinet part...GBK
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2004-09-03 19:37
Petrouchka in the International Excerpt book is missing ties on the high C triplets.
I remember my lesson w/Gigliotti as a freshman when I played each C tounged - his head almost turned all the way around ala the Exorcist.
;)
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Author: GBK
Date: 2004-09-03 20:04
DavidBlumberg wrote:
> Petrouchka in the International Excerpt book is missing ties on
> the high C triplets.
That's not the only mistake in the International Excerpt book version of Petrouchka ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif) ...GBK
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Author: elmo lewis
Date: 2004-09-03 23:32
In the original 1910 version the D clarinet plays these trills and they are both half-step trills. Source: Dover reprint of the State Music Publishing House, Moscow 1964 edition.
It appears that they were mis-transposed.
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Author: diz
Date: 2004-09-05 22:56
GBK ... I much prefer the "other" version of Firebird, it's written for a much larger orchestra, right?
Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2004-09-05 23:18
Diz...There are three different concert suites which emanated from the original 1909 ballet.
The first (1911), often called a "symphonic suite" has the same orchestration as the ballet score.
The second (1919), is for a much smaller orchestra, but a little longer in duration.
The third (1945), often called a "ballet suite" has essentially the same orchestration as the second suite (a snare drum is now added), but is slightly longer in duration than the second suite...GBK
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