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Author: Barry
Date: 2000-01-09 18:06
Does anybody know of a list, or can we start a list of all the pros and what clarinet they play on? If they play more than one, list each with what they are used for. Or, is this some sort of secert that pros do not give out.
For example, I would love to know what brand and model of clarint that Richard Stolzman used for recording "ARIA", and what Alfred Prinz used during the recording of Mozart's Clarinet Concerto with the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra (Karl Bojm) con.)
Sound like a good topic? I good not find this in a search.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2000-01-09 18:20
If you look at what they're currently endorings it'll give you a good idea of what they're currently playing. However, even then they may play something else depending on the circumstance.
If you wish to start such a list, please go right ahead, but not here on the BBoard. It will quickly become out of date and we'll end up seeing "but I saw him/her playing on a xxxxx last night" kind of thing.
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Author: Pam
Date: 2000-01-09 18:48
Too true Mark! It's not the instrument alone that makes the music, it's the person playing it. I have heard the same type of questions at photography clubs as well. As if buying a certain camera (or clarinet) that "so and so" uses will make me a better photographer or clarinetist.
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Author: Ray Swing
Date: 2000-01-09 20:47
When I asked Richard Stoltzman what brand clarinet he played on a recent concert, his reply was that the various parts were put together and modified by HIS teacher.
In reply to my question on Ligatures, he said he was using a standard,inexpensive metal one.
On a question concerning reeds, he stated he carries 500 with him at all times and of these he has 10 or 12 pretty good ones but no really great ones.
Asked how much he practices the answer was "As much as I Can - 4 to 5 hours per day)
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Author: Kim
Date: 2000-01-10 00:02
I recently bought a new R-13 clarinet. I have been looking at what professionals play, but why look at that when it is the teacher and the instrumentalist that makes the talent--not the instrument. A professional, such as Richard Stoltzman will sound and be professional on an E-11. Such a list can only be used as a reference to which are better brands of clarinets to buy and try.
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Author: BAC <--- used to be Barry
Date: 2000-01-10 00:45
Kim, that is one thing that I was after. I have found that people who were "brought-up" on one brand seem to really be loyal. Buffet fans just love them, same with Lablanc, Selmer.... I assume these guys can make any horn sound good, so it would have been nice to know, if you can do that, what would be your own choice.
I too am into photography and love AA - I have a medium format, but hmmmm....mine shots just don't cut it. Perhaps if I move up to a large format, ya, thats the ticket!
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Author: Graham Elliott
Date: 2000-01-10 08:00
I'm sure top players can sound good on an inexpensive clarinet, but would they sound like them, and would it give them the interpretive range they usually enjoy? Why have they taken trouble (often alot of trouble) choosing an instrument if any competently made instrument would do? If we hear something special in a person's playing it is only natural to wonder whether the instrument has helped create that, and whether we might have something of "that" if we owned the instrument. I think this is a perfectly reasonable line of enquiry.
Personally, I would be more interested in the reeds they play, whether they use certain brands for certain types of music etc.
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Author: William
Date: 2000-01-10 15:36
It's fun to know what the "pros" are playing, but it's the person that makes the music--not the equipment. There is a story about how a fan approached Issac Stearn after a concert to tell him how beautiful his violin had sounded that evening. It is said that he opened his case and replyed, "I don't hear anything!" :>)
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2000-01-10 21:40
Barry wrote:
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Does anybody know of a list, or can we start a list of all the pros and what clarinet they play on? If they play more than one, list each with what they are used for. Or, is this some sort of secert that pros do not give out.
For example, I would love to know what brand and model of clarint that Richard Stolzman used for recording "ARIA", and what Alfred Prinz used during the recording of Mozart's Clarinet Concerto with the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra (Karl Bojm) con.)
Sound like a good topic? I good not find this in a search.
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Barry -
The Vienna Philharmonic plays nearly 1/4 step above modern pitch - around A=450 or even higher. I do not know who made Prinz's clarinets, but they are either turn-of-the-century ones hand-made by Oskar Oehler for the VPO and handed down from one generation to the next, or custom-made by Wurlitzer or Hammerschmidt at VPO pitch.
Richard Stoltzman plays instruments that began life as carefully chosen Buffet R-13s and were then elaborately reworked by Stoltzman's teacher, Kalmen Opperman. Also, as Opperman's prize student, Stoltzman can and does go back to him several times a hear for fine adjustments. Opperman makes barrels from scratch and makes mouthpieces from semi-finished blanks. He sets up each instrument as a whole, with the mouthpiece and barrel made for each other and for the instrument, and also for the player's embouchure and playing style. He also makes reeds completely by hand, beginning with tubes of cane seasoned for many years.
The best players have always had that sort of customization. Alvin Swiney, who was an apprentice of Hans Moennig, has posted a number of fascinating pieces on the Klarinet board describing the unbelieveably extensive modifications Moennig made to instruments used by the top players, such as Ralph McLane and Robert Marcellus. Go to the Search screen for the Klarinet archives and enter "Swiney Marcellus" (without the quotation marks) to read them.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: BAC
Date: 2000-01-11 17:43
Thanks ken,
The comment you made:
"I do not know who made Prinz's clarinets, but they are either turn-of-the-century ones hand-made by Oskar Oehler for the VPO and handed down from one generation to the next"
well, so much for the idea of clarinets wearing out! Or is that another topic for disscussion?!?!
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