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Author: David Peacham
Date: 2004-08-31 20:10
First London performance, tomorrow at 7.30. Available on the airwaves and on webcast.
I shall be there - in stalls STK2/1/58 to 60 if anyone's sitting nearby and wants to say hello!
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Author: CJB
Date: 2004-09-01 07:59
I'll keep a look out for you David - I'm going tonight but am sitting at the back of the circle.
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2004-09-01 10:49
I shall also be going, don't no where i'll be sitting, i'll get before the concert starts. Such a good piece though, came across Stanley Drucker's recording from the 80's i think and tried to study it at the Royal College of Music but fust didn't have enough time to learn it plus the fact that it is difficult, just think I could've been doing the London Premier at the RCM three years ago!
Peter Cigleris
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Author: CJB
Date: 2004-09-01 11:06
I was quite surprised to discover it was the London premiere. The only recording I've got is with Stolzman and the LSO recorded in the late 80s.
I booked yesterday - there wasn't a shortage of seats then, well at least not in the parts of the hall I can afford to sit in
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2004-09-01 11:16
I have several recordings of it (mostly live from Radio)
Combs, Zukovsky, Drucker (several of em), and Stoltzman.
I got the music my Junior year in High School (Leonard Bernstein told me where I could get it which at the time was availiable on rental only from Schirmer).
By Senior year I had it memorized - too bad I didn't have an Orchestra to play it with
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Author: Bellflare
Date: 2004-09-01 12:38
Doesnt anyone write lyrical lovely concerti anymore?*
Am I the only human(sic) who still likes Weber?
Stuck in Romanticism I guess
*I will concede on the Red Violin, but that was for mass consumption.
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Author: justwannaplay
Date: 2004-09-01 15:50
I still like Weber! - but after reading Rachel's thread a while ago I'm very curious to hear the Corigliano Concerto. I'll be listening to it on the radio, though. Enjoy the concert David, CJB and Peter (maybe you could cough at a designated time so we know you're there).
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Author: Ed
Date: 2004-09-01 16:17
I do think that there is much lyricism in the Corigliano, especially the second movement. Corigliano is one of my favorite composers today. His music is a good mix of tonality and modern harmony/atonality with brilliant orchestration. I think that it is very listenable. Corigliano seems to have found a way to combine modern and traditional (for lack of a better word) techniques in a way that reflects music over the centuries, rather than trying to break completely with tradition. Yet, he retains his own language in that his music is identifiable.
I recall that I was in college when the Corigliano was written. My clarinet teacher wrote to Corigliano and got a copy of the premiere performance with Drucker. He sent me to the library to go listen to this. I was astounded by what I heard.
While I too may enjoy Weber and Mozart, I would no more expect someone to write in that style than to dress in the styles they wore in the day.
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2004-09-01 19:28
It's pretty good - not stellar.
Just heard the Cadenza. Knowing all of the notes and hearing pretty much every single one missed kinda ruins the piece for me.
I love it though!
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2004-09-04 14:49
I was wrong - it's a brilliant performance!!
His Cadenza Mvt (mvt 1) is the cleanist that I have ever heard. Cleaner than Drucker, Zukovsky, Stoltzman, and Combs which I have recordings of (taped off the live broadcasts).
A friend of mine connected his streaming computer to another computer's microphone jack and recorded the stream.
Interesting
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Author: Gazebo Dealer
Date: 2004-09-04 17:13
Does anyone know if Richard Hawkins has a recording of this concerto out? I know he has a sample of it on his website. It sounds very nice. To comment on Collins' Corigliano I loved it. I am astonished as how well he played the piece. I remember the first time I heard Collins was on his recording of Mozart on the basset clarinet. That's one of the recordings that led me to be serious about music. If anyone could let me know if Michael Collins has recorded other works such as Premiere Rhapsodie, Weber concerti, Concertino, or Grand Duo Concertante, Copland Concerto, any Brahms, or the FRANCAIX (PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF HE HAS THIS RECORDED), that would be great.
Thanks.
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Author: RAMman
Date: 2004-09-04 17:19
Premier Rhapsodie, Weber Grand Duo, Poulenc, Messager and others are all on one of his earlier discs...
'Virtuosi, Michael Collins' on EMI.
He's played Copland at the Proms, so someone must have a recording of that.
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Author: Brian Peterson
Date: 2004-09-04 18:11
Dumb question, but what exactly is the origin of the term "prom"?
This side of the pond, the word calls to my mind powder blue tuxedos, low cut satin dresses and some garage band belting out an awful arrangement of "Stairway to Heaven".
Needless to say I'f much prefer joining Peter, CJB and David at that prom.
Regards,
BP
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Author: GBK
Date: 2004-09-04 19:19
Brian Peterson wrote:
> This side of the pond, the word calls to my mind powder blue
> tuxedos, low cut satin dresses and some garage band belting out
> an awful arrangement of "Stairway to Heaven".
...and ending the evening by watching the "submarine races" ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif) at Inspiration Point ...GBK
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Author: David Peacham
Date: 2004-09-05 09:33
They are called the Proms, or more formally the Promenade Concerts, because some members of the audience stand. In olden days they would actually walk around, drinking and smoking.
See http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms/aboutfestival/history.shtml.
The second half of this Prom was Pictures at an Exhibition, peculiarly appropriate with its "Promenade" movements. No ordinary Pictures either; the conductor, Leonard Slatkin, had put together a version with different movements orchestrated by different people - fifteen different arrangers in all. He first did this in 1991 (I was there) but with only nine different arrangers.
It was Slatkin's 60th birthday, so the concert ended with massed singing of that horrid song.
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Author: David Peacham
Date: 2004-09-05 10:33
People may be interested in programme notes for the Corigliano:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms/aboutmusic/corigliano_concerto.shtml
Mark/GBK - maybe get permission to make these permanently available on woodwind.org?
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2004-09-05 15:28
David Peacham wrote:
> Mark/GBK - maybe get permission to make these permanently
> available on woodwind.org?
I'll try & contact James Keller
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Author: CJB
Date: 2004-09-05 21:32
From where I sat in the hall the performance was totally captivating - my 11 year old clarinet pupil was in the audience as well. I've never seen him grin so much when I met up with him at the interval.
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2004-09-05 22:19
well what a great concert! Michael played the concerto with such style, he made it sound effortless. It made me want to get the piece out and continue where i left off three years ago. The other pieces were well performed also, the BBC symphony were on form, Richard Hosford praised Michael on his performance. What a good night, good concert topped off with drinks in the 9s with the rest of the clarinet section after the gig (we all moaned about the lack of work in London) then cocktails in a late bar. I'm glad everyone else enjoyed it who was there or listened on the radio.
Peter Cigleris
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