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Author: DAVE
Date: 2004-08-13 01:06
Just curious if you were/are made to stand during lessons. This is not meant to be a commentary about the pros and cons of standing; that's been beaten enough here. The reason I ask is that I had some particularly figetty young clarinet players in lessons the other day and when I had them stand they seemed to pay more attention. I was only made to stand by one teacher.
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Author: Bnatural
Date: 2004-08-13 01:08
Not quite sure if this is what you were looking for but my experience has varied greatly with standing and not standing as well. I doubt this is really a trend but at least in my case the teachers that doubled and played alot of music outside of the classical realm seem to be the ones who make/encourage standing. Not claiming a trend just what i've noticed.
dave
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Author: allencole
Date: 2004-08-13 02:10
I have almost always sat in lessons, and most of my students sit unless we're doing something special. I prefer this, because it alerts me to abuses of furniture and posture that I would not otherwise find out about.
The most frequent circumstances I have for standing them up are either to watch themselves in a mirror, or to demonstrate the fact that they will not always have a chair to lean against.
Allen Cole
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Author: Brandon
Date: 2004-08-13 02:10
I had to stand during lessons. Why? The teacher told me Marcellus made him stand, so why should I question Marcellus? Worked for me.
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Author: Contra
Date: 2004-08-13 02:32
We had to stand for one class period because so many of us couldn't sit correctly. That was the longest hour and a half I've ever had. It did make us sit correctly for a few years. Well, the rest of the year, anyway.
Post Edited (2004-08-13 21:30)
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Author: Tom Piercy
Date: 2004-08-13 02:45
When I took lessons from Gervase De Peyer he had me stand in lessons since most of my work was as a soloist standing up. He also stood throughout the lessons. When I coached with him for chamber music, he has me sit.
Lessons with Russianoff were sitting unless we were in a coaching situation where I would be standing for the eventual performance.
Working with Opperman is a sit down situation; the lessons with him can, and often do, go on all day.
I have most of my students stand in the lesson for I think if they can play it standing, then sitting and playing it will be easier.
Tom Piercy
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Author: hartt
Date: 2004-08-13 03:02
Tom,
you lucky tooter !! Leon made me stand. (but I sat when I walked out of 1590 and across the street to the Metropole for a cold one ![[happy]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smiley12.gif) )
Opperman... always a sitdown unless it was a practice lesson for recital/jurys.
Hadcock, a sit dow
Denman....Up and Down ; and I don't mean scales.
Moshe Paranov.....although not a clarinet teacher, the only 'players' he allowed to sit were pianists and cellists
Now, I sit for myself with the bell on my knee.... but that's another story.
regards
d
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Author: psychotic lil clarinet girl (don't as
Date: 2004-08-13 05:47
Well... If you wanna take advice from a student... Standing is probably better, because I tend to slouch when I sit down, and my bell is usually rested between my knees... I would imagine it would be the same way for many students.... Actually, while standing up you're moving less... because while you're sitting down you can move your feet around and stuff... Moving less while playing is a plus I think... So, I guess standing up is better than sitting down...
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Author: kdennyclarinet
Date: 2004-08-13 06:18
Both of my primary teachers studied with Marcellus, and they both used similar approches with me.
TU: Shannon Scott: Sitting mostly. While playing scales, etudes, etc, I always sat. If it was coming close to a performance or jury, she'd have me stand up and face her. I think I sat more with her because she is primarily an orchestral player.
UNL: Diane Cawein-Barger: Again, sitting mostly in the same circumstances as above. However, I think I stood a lot more for her while working on recital material. Even if it wasn't all that close to a performance. However, looking back, I had more performances while there... so, I'm sure that has something to do with it.
I prefer to sit when I'm practicing, but then will stand if I'm wanting to do a serious run-through. It bothers me a bit when I see "professionals" sitting during a recital. It doesn't bother me too badly if they sit during a solo clarinet piece, because I know that pacing, and page turns, and many other factors are much easier to manage while sitting. I just feel a bit disappointed when they sit during a sonata, etc. Anybody else share this feeling?
K. Denny
BME, MM, DMA
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Author: DAVE
Date: 2004-08-13 16:53
I sat in my lessons with Larry Combs, but I don't think he would have cared if I wanted to stand. He always sat. Simmilar situation with John Yeh, although I recall him standing mostly.
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2004-08-13 19:49
k dennyclarinet, I have never really thought about it until now, but now that i do, I think I wouldn't mind if any clarinetist would sit no matter what he/she is playing. Even if it was a clarinet concerto with an orchestra I wouldn't mind if he/she would sit.
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Author: mkybrain
Date: 2004-08-13 23:47
the only time i ever stood up was for practice for a recital, she played the piano accompeniment, i stood, b/c thats what i was to do in the recital. All other times i sat down, b/c at all other times i sit down when i play.
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Author: Meri
Date: 2004-08-14 23:53
I personally prefer to stand during lessons, though with my students, I let them choose, unless they are playing a solo with piano or playing duets with me. Most prefer sitting, though three prefer to stand, and one *hates* sitting while playing. (maybe that's a reason why he doesn't like band?)
Meri
"There is a difference between being flat and sounding in tune, and being in tune but sounding flat. The first I can live with; the second I cannot."
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Author: William
Date: 2004-08-15 15:14
If you play second clarinet in an orchestra, you should take all of your lessons sitting down because the conductor may never ask you to stand (for a bow).
Seriously, I think that you should learn to play from both the sitted and standing positions with good or appropriate posture. This is particularily true if you double on the saxophones and do a lot of jazz gigs that require you to stand during solos. Physical focus in support of your playing efforts is the point--bad posture is unacceptable, seated or upright.
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Author: matilda
Date: 2004-08-17 20:13
id always stood in my lessons until i moved and got a new teacher last year. she presumed i wanted to sit but after the 2nd lesson i asked to stand and although she looked a bit suprised at first shes got used to it now. its a bit difficult when we play duets tho as shes about a foot shorter than me!
matilda
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