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Author: AJ
Date: 2004-08-01 18:31
Hello,
I'm planning to do a double degree at Oberlin in the conservatory and neurology. Is anyone here doing a double major or is there anyone that has graduated with a double major? If there is anyone could you please tell me how its going. In the end would you end up with career or both? Thanx
AJ
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2004-08-01 19:06
Sorry, AJ, I was only in the Con. A good friend of mine there did a double degree in Clarinet and English. She doesn't do much with the English degree AFAIK... She does teach clarinet and gig and keeps auditioning for orchestras...
Is neurology a better-marketable degree field than English?
Katrina
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Author: hans
Date: 2004-08-01 19:11
Katrina,
Re: "Is neurology a better-marketable degree field than English?"
If you are referring to an MD specializing in neurology, IMO the answer would be "yes".
Regards,
Hans
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Author: contragirl
Date: 2004-08-01 22:54
Heh, my boyfriend's dad is a neurologist... let's just say he's a millionare. He's about to retire, I'd say he did pretty well with it.
At UMD, we don't have minors as some schools. But the BA program (as opposed to the BM) in music is geared more towards people doing a double major, since it has different requirements. I don't know how it works other places.
--CG
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Author: AJ
Date: 2004-08-02 05:40
Sorry but Im a little behind on the abbreviations, what does IMO and AFAIK mean?
AJ
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Author: msloss
Date: 2004-08-02 13:19
AJ, the time to invest in keeping your options open is now. If you have any doubts about either your ability or interest in making music an exclusive career (including that all-important commitment to starvation), do the double. There is no reason you could not keep your hand in the music and be an accomplished neuroscientist. Perfect example would be Dr. Ron Odrich, who has an unbelievable bio as a jazz cat (http://www.sonsofsound.com/artists/odrich/biography.html), and has a very successful practice as a periodontist.
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Author: David Peacham
Date: 2004-08-02 18:52
AJ, I think you need to get your terminology straight.
Neurology is a medical specialty concerned with treating organic disease of the brain and the central nervous system. You can't do an undergraduate degree in neurology any more than you can do one in brain surgery or oncology.
The Oberlin course is in neuroscience, a branch of biology concerned with studying the functioning of the brain.
My experience as a biology graduate in England in the late seventies was that career opportunities in biology were not too good. There were low-paid research jobs, sure. But research in those areas of biology related to medicine was dominated by qualified medics.
Maybe the situation in the US in 2008 or so will be more favourable.
I suggest you find out what careers are being followed by graduates of this programme. It has been running for 30 years, so there should be plenty to talk to. My guess is that most of them, or at least most of them who earn decent money, are computer people, lawyers, accountants, realtors.....
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If there are so many people on this board unwilling or unable to have a civil and balanced discussion about important issues, then I shan't bother to post here any more.
To the great relief of many of you, no doubt.
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Author: AJ
Date: 2004-08-02 20:04
Sorry, my bad, should've said neuroscience, after all that reading of neuro this and neuro that i got a little mixed up! But I mean I might not also do music and neuroscience, i might do music and psychology but I still need to explore them more. I just wanted to have some suggestions or ideas about double majors.
AJ
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Author: hans
Date: 2004-08-02 22:12
AJ,
IMO Business is a useful second subject that can lead to a good career; I have never regretted taking it. But the main criterion for choosing a second subject should be your interest in it.
Does your school have a Guidance Department that can help you find a suitable second subject to major in?
Regards,
Hans
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Author: Rick Williams
Date: 2004-08-03 15:35
I did a double major in chemistry and physics and I'm not working in either field. The problem with a lot of undergraduate degrees in science is that you end up washing test tubes for the folks with masters and PhD's unless there is a specific career track in neurology. My brother in law for example got a BS in zoology and his first job was QC manager for a company that made petri dishes and 30 years later he is the computer network support manager for a multi-national.
From a practical standpoint you need to look at what the requirements are for the two majors you are considering. Chemistry and physics weren't too bad since one class may meet requirements for two degrees, but the same might not be true of say neurology and music, so you end up spending an extra year or two on the program. Which leads to the question, would you be better off getting a single degree then taking the extra time and getting a masters?
Best
Rick
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Author: lowclarinetman
Date: 2004-08-03 23:25
Good luck at Oberlin.
I hope you enjoy it there as much as i did. I just was in the con as well, but i have several friends that were Doube degree and some are playing some are doing there other degrees. A close friend of mine there got degrees in chemisty and tuba... he is currently using the chemistry degree a good bit more.
I know at least one clarinetist while i was there that got a double degree and she is also using her physics degree a bit more.. at least as of 2 years ago.. geez where does the time go.
As far as what career u end up with... depends on a lot of things. Only a few people I knew at Oberlin are just making their living off of music. The program is good, just practice a lot and play as much as possible.
good luck
bob hoit
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Author: 68fordfalcon
Date: 2004-08-05 17:42
Another fellow clarinetist of ours (bob hoit's and mine) was a Bio and Clarinet major at Oberlin and he is playing professionally now, following grad school at Mannes. All of my double degree friends at Oberlin had an incredible work load. You're going to Oberlin, so you already subscribe to the ideals of "Learning and Labor". Get ready for both, because that place is intense. I wish you luck, and if it makes any difference, I wish I had been double degree. During my time at Oberlin I became more interested in academic (non-musical) pursuits. The biggest issue for you will be time. Good luck
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