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Author: Gene
Date: 2004-08-02 20:15
Thinking of getting a big bore clarinet for jazz play r-13 mainly can anyone suggest a used model doesn';t have to be wood.
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Author: Phat Cat
Date: 2004-08-02 21:08
Shucks, I thought this topic referred to certain posters and was expecting real fireworks...
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Author: Synonymous Botch
Date: 2004-08-02 22:04
The Conn 77 in hard rubber is pretty wild.
I've heard some decent playing on the student model Boosey 1-10.
My favorite is the Conn 444/424, but they're pretty difficult to play in tune.
Best all around? Maybe the Selmer Series 9?
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2004-08-02 22:04
Gene - We have discussed the "big bore" clarinets often, so I'd initially suggest searching our archives. The most-talked-about 15.0+ mm [U J dia.] horns may be some of the Leblancs, Dynamics and Pete Fountains, and the Selmers BT and CT. Some of the older Conns [woods and plastics] were large, the Boosey and Hawkes made the largest I know of, their 10 series cls, I believe. Many of us have little difficulty playing jazz on any size cl, a wider/longer "lay" mouthpiece may help "projection" . Incidentally, please use a bit of punctuation and capitalization in your posts, I had some difficulty understanding . Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: super20dan
Date: 2004-08-02 23:57
conn hard rubber makes a great jazz horn .leblanc LL good too. penzell -muller good also
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Author: William
Date: 2004-08-03 15:08
I use an R13 for jazz and when I want that "big sound", I just play softly and hold the bell of my clarinet close to the mike. But I know the "sound" of which you are speaking. My friend, Chuck Hedges (one of the best older traditional jazz clarinetists still playing) achieved his original big, easy sound with a Selmer BT. He is now playing on a LeBlanc Concerto (that Vito gave to him) and--at the advise of friend, Larry Combs--Legere reeds which help regain some of that old "BT" quality in his tone. However, I continue to believe that the "big" sound is really more a result of your mpc/reed setup and mental concept rather than the size of your clarinets bore.
For my own playing--which includes both classical and jazz venue--I use pretty much the same "sound" no matter where I am playing. My focus is on its quality--it must meet my mental concept of what is "good"--and its intonation and blend with the ensemble. The only difference between my "jazz" and my "classical" playing is the style with which I play, not the basic sound.
Whenever I hear a clarinetist whose sound I particularily enjoy, it is usually more a result of the effectiveness of their musical phrasings (style) and the impeccalbe intonaltional control with which they play rather than just their tone quality alone. As the professor James Smith, conductor of our University of Wisconsin's (Madison) Wind Ensemble and the Wisconsin Youth Symphony Orchestra, frequently says, "A pretty sound is an in-tune sound" (period).
Jazz sound?? Play in tune and with appropriate jazz style(s)--you need not be concerned beyond that.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2004-08-03 21:53
Try a LeBlanc Pete Fountain plastic for starters.....
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2004-08-04 22:07
I like the old Boosey & Hawkes wood clarinets (Edgware, Stratford, Series 2-20 and 8-10, Imperial 926, and of course the Symphony 1010) but only after certain modifications are made (e.g. tonehole undercutting, minor keywork reshaping for better ergonomics). Bores of these are generally .593" (15.06 mm) except for the 'huge-bore' Symphony 1010 at .600" (15.24 mm).
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Author: Bellflare
Date: 2004-08-05 00:50
Certain mouthpieces work better on the big bores. Eaton makes some.
The old Conn Eagle logo ones seem good for big bore horns.
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There is one available now on one of the online auctions for cheap, but I
have too many mouthpieces already. sigh.
I tried one once and it gave a big fat sound.
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Author: CPW
Date: 2004-08-05 16:44
Gosh, before fixing the problem read the thread about trouble with co-workers.
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