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Author: Aussie Nick
Date: 2004-07-27 09:25
Heyas. As some of you might know I just came back from Europe with 2 new Rc prestiges. I've had some more time to play them and the only things I can fault are:
On the A, the clarion G# is really sharp although the 12th (low C#) isn't bad.
On the Bb, the upper clarion B and C (mainly just the B) are both too sharp. The C isn't too bad, but the B is astronomically sharp.
I know the G# on the A is easy to fix, but can anything be done about the clarion B?
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Author: ron b
Date: 2004-07-27 18:32
That would (probably?) require moving a chimney tone hole, a rather serious renovation, especially for a new clarinet ![[frown]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie2.gif) ... uh, can you return the instruments for a refund?
- ron b -
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Author: NiceOldHorns
Date: 2004-07-27 23:00
I have seen the Chadash clarinets with very high chimneys on the last two toneholes... I wonder if that could be done with yours?
It's a donut of grenadilla turned to fit the existing toneholes as a 'cap'.
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Author: davor
Date: 2004-07-28 07:46
Hi,
You can try if they are sharp to lower certain keys. If your both C# and G# on the A clarinet are sharp, try to put 0,2-0,4 mm extra cork under the key where the cork allready is.
On the Bb you could lower the ring keys. Start by glueing the same cork on the lower rings, where the cork allready is. This might lower your B, but will also affect e1, c1 and g2. If it gets worse, than cork should be glued where the pieces connect, to the upper joint. This will require a regulation of the lower rings key probably.
Let us know what you did, if anything at all.
Good luck
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Author: Matt Locker
Date: 2004-07-28 11:43
Just an aside.........
What does this say for their tuning machine that said your instruments were all tuned perfectly?
Technology is not the answer to every problem!
MOO,
Matt
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Author: William
Date: 2004-07-28 14:54
Or, you can do what everyone else does and just lip those sharp notes down to pitch using your ears. On my Buffet R13 A, those clarion notes--B5 & C5--are made much more managable with the use of an old Moennig barrel. On my Concerto A, those same notes are still on the sharp side, but not nearly as much so as on my Buffet. However, for both of my A clarinets, the best remedy I have found, so far, is to "listen and lip" until a concenus of good intonation is achieved.
In every ensemble, "good" intonation is good cooperation--same as in a good marriage where crictical listening--and the spouses (usually husbands) ability to admit "I'm wrong, your right"--is often the best solution.
True story--I once asked a Hollywood studeo musican playing trumpet in a nationallay televised (1960"s) variety show orchestra, what his secrete to good intonation was. His answer, "If I think I am out of tune, I just play louder".
FYI--the show was the old "Tennesse Ernie Ford Show", broadcast "live" from Los Angeles, December of 1959.
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2004-07-28 15:17
Hi,
I have had very good luck using an assortment of barrels to deal with the sharp A5 to C5. Both my Buffet Academy and LeBlanc Dynamic 2 can be high (and much higher in very warm weather - but I shared some temperature-related pitch numbers in earlier posts).
I have a 66MM generic barrel reamed to Moennig specs, a Chadash 67mm, a 68 mm Moenning as well as two Scott Aa2 barrels of 67 and 68 mms. I just mess around and see what works best (I'm not that gifted a player that I can wring out the most subtle nuances of each one).
In the summer (or in a very warm rehearsal room), I tend to start with the 67mm Chadash on the Academy and the 68mm on the Dyn 2). In my study, which is kept at about standard temperature (about 70-72 degrees F), the re-bored barrel works just great.
Temperature can be a major factor. We had a community band concert last week at 92 degrees F. The tuning went right out the window but it was outside so.... Perhaps when you tried the clarinets originally, the temperature was standard.
HRL
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