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 Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: florizell 
Date:   2004-07-14 04:37

Hello Hello,
I'm on the quest of forming my own sound as a clarinet player and want to listen to as much clari music as possible to help me.
If any one you can suggest music worth listening to performed by a range of musicians, in any style, i'd be greatful of the help.
Thanks
~Florizell~

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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: Markus Wenninger 
Date:   2004-07-14 05:28

The contemporary: Eduard Brunner (cl), on: Dal Niente, ECM New Music Series.
A giant, playing a dozen or so of the very core-pieces of the 20ieth century, stunningly so.
Markus

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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: BobD 
Date:   2004-07-14 11:08

.....but then, you'll sound like all the others....

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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: florizell 
Date:   2004-07-14 12:23

thanks markus,
bob:
ok any other suggestions?

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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2004-07-14 14:22

ye bobd is right, you don't want to sound like anyone else.
anyway, here are some really good clarinetists. eric dolphy (old/free jazz), louis sclavis (modern/free jazz), sharon kam (classical).



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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: Kevin 
Date:   2004-07-14 14:25

Take a peak through the 'tone masters' thread.

[ http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=151155&t=150798 - GBK ]

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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: BobD 
Date:   2004-07-14 17:18

"bob:
ok any other suggestions?"

Flori...I'm quite sympathetic to your stated goal of developing your own sound but perhaps what you really mean is that you want to emulate some other clarinetist but don't know which one. Is that it??

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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: theclarinetist 
Date:   2004-07-14 18:47

If you are looking for players, here are some whose sounds are nice (IMO) that I like to listen to...

Dieter Klocker
Victoria Soames
Robert Marcellus
Richard Stoltzman (control yourselves!)
Thea King
Alain Damiens

These are just some that pop into my mind at the moment... Obviously there isn't one player that anyone should try to completely copy... I think each player has pros and cons (which are obviously determined on an individual basis by the listener). For example, I might grimace at Stoltzman's vibrato or sound quality every once in a while, but I still learn from his expressive freedom and musical vitality (again, these are MY opinions of his pros/cons). Similarly, while I find Marcellus's Mozart Concerto recording to be pretty bland from an interpretative standpoint, his sound is pure and beautiful. Victoria Soames might sound too stereotypically "British" (let's not even get into what this means!) at times, but I find her style to be very engaging. I think the best approach is to listen to as many players as possible, analyze what it is that you like about them and what it is that you do not like, and then integrate those findings into your own playing. As I said before, there is NO ONE player that we should try to copy. Take in a variety!

DH
theclarinetist@yahoo.com

If you would like a more specific list of recommended albums, let me know... I may not know everything about the clarinet, but I have a LOT of CDs!! (that's my claim to fame, sadly)



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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: Bigno16 
Date:   2004-07-14 18:48

Jon Manasse

"The Complete Clarinet Music, Vol. I" and "..., Vol II" (Weber)

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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: SGTClarinet_7 
Date:   2004-07-14 19:14

I really enjoy Larry Combs and Sabine Meyer, although Robert Spring just makes my jaw drop with Flight of the Bumblebee.

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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: Bradley 
Date:   2004-07-15 02:39

Don- excellent post......

I'd like to add Harold Wright- who I feel is often an "unsung" hero in the musicality field. His Brahms is absolutely amazing. Yes, he uses vibrato and there is one place in the 1st Sonata, 3rd mvt. where he vibrates a note I think is too low, and the pitch becomes unsteady. Everything else in his Brahms Sonatas is perfection. He reaps every romantic musical aspect of Brahms' compositions without going overboard and sounding affected or obnoxious. His tone is incredibly silky and his technique is smooth and even. While I do not use, or particulary appreciate vibrato, Wright's is hands down the best I've heard on a clarinet.....ever.

I also have to agree with the Dieter Klocker and Jon Manasse suggestions. Karl Steffens also has a beautiful tone.

Bradley

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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: Rivers 
Date:   2004-07-15 03:00

Jon Manasse.....absolutely one of the best sounds of any contemporary clarinetist

Walter Boeykens......"French Clarinet Music"....Talent label...I listen to this CD over and over and over again

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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: Bradley 
Date:   2004-07-15 03:39

Ahh- Rivers, I forgot Boeykens! Lol

His French stuff is great. I also have his doing double concerti with his daughter Anne Boeykens.

Bradley

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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: theclarinetist 
Date:   2004-07-15 05:00

Also, if you don't really have any clarinet recordings, a good place to start might be a compilation CD such as "The Magic of the Clarinet" or "Romanza: Art of the Clarinet" both of which are readily available at Barnes and Noble type stores last time I checked. These are nice because they feature a variety of music, which pieces by many different players. Good luck!

DH
theclarinetist@yahoo.com

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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: florizell 
Date:   2004-07-15 07:55

thanks guys you are FANTASTIC!!!!
Keep the suggestions rolling in i'm loving it :O)
I'll get my fingers onto some of those cds as soon as you can say:
precipitevolissimevolmente (in a flash- in italian!!!)

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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: Kevin 
Date:   2004-07-15 15:42

Along with Harold Wright's Brahms sonatas, I would like to also reccommend David Shifrin's disc with the same program.

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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: leonardA 
Date:   2004-07-16 01:06

All these classical players are great, but I also love Pete Fountain's big, full and relaxed sound.

Leonard

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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: florizell 
Date:   2004-07-28 09:02

the clarinettist:
if you can reccomend specific albums, that would be great.
Thanx!
~Flori~

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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: clarinetgiggirl 
Date:   2004-07-28 15:29

What about Sydney Bechet - an unusual and distinctive sound with LOTS of wide vibratto. And don't forget Benny Goodman.

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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: theclarinetist 
Date:   2004-07-28 18:29

Here are some links to CDs that might be a good place to start. The first two are complitation CDs that contain a good variety of pieces that will give you traditional through more modern pieces. The Weber/Mozart CDs are standards everyone should know, and these are good recordings at an affordable price. The last three CDs, I feel, would be valuable because they offer a good variety of pieces. There are tons of CDs that are great to own, but I think if you are looking for just a few to start, you should pick ones that represent many different composers and styles. Any other suggestions from other posters would be great too...

The Magic of the Clarinet
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000005EBZ/qid=1091038305/sr=1-21/ref=sr_1_21/002-1158962-1761623?v=glance&s=classical

Romanza: Art of the Clarinet
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004SPSX/qid=1091038388/sr=1-12/ref=sr_1_12/002-1158962-1761623?v=glance&s=classical

Weber- Clarinet Works
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005OBRG/qid=1091038454/sr=8-1/ref=__1/002-1158962-1761623?v=glance&s=classical

Mozart Clarinet Concerto
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000029QN/qid=1091038579/sr=8-3/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i3_xgl15/002-1158962-1761623?v=glance&s=classical&n=507846

Solo de Concours
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000044D7/qid=1091038684/sr=5-1/ref=cm_lm_asin/002-1158962-1761623?v=glance

French Clarinet Art
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000034YI/qid=1091038969/sr=5-1/ref=cm_lm_asin/002-1158962-1761623?v=glance

English Clarinet Music
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000002ZES/qid=1091038969/sr=5-1/ref=cm_lm_asin/002-1158962-1761623?v=glance

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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: katchow 
Date:   2004-07-28 19:26

one of my all time favs...Jimmy Giuffre !

a very distintive sound...ranging jazz styles a lot of nice stuff w/ the guitarist jim hall.

sounds a little like bill smith (of brubeck fame) but with more meaningful note choices (just my opinion)...

its really hard to pin him down to any school of jazz...

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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: larryb 
Date:   2004-07-28 19:54

Pee Wee Russell - if you really want to sound distinctive

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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: Katrina 
Date:   2004-07-29 13:41

As I always mention...go for Ivo Papazov (Papasov) if you really want different....

Katrina

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 Re: Reccomended music to listen to?
Author: Rev. Avery 
Date:   2004-07-29 18:54

Pee Wee Russell -- great choice :-) He has probably the "worst" sound I love to hear!

My favorite for a great sound is Chuch Hedges. He has it all from top to bottom. Such a smooth sound. Of course, Eddie Daniels is right up there too.



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