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 Von Suppe Morning, Noon and Night
Author: LeOpus1190s 
Date:   2004-06-25 07:34

I recently played this with a band not to long ago and really enjoyed the extended clarinet solos in particular.

Now I went to listen to the recording with Col. Grahm and the USAF and the big solo in the begining was a cello (with band? weird) and the other ones were played by the whole section. Now aside from knowing that in the orchestral version the first solo is for cello, does Col. Grahm have a problem with solo clarinet? I was just kind of annoyed that everything that was supposed to be solo wasn't.

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 Re: Von Suppe Morning, Noon and Night
Author: CPW 
Date:   2004-06-25 13:38

this is common practice to invite cellist for it

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 Re: Von Suppe Morning, Noon and Night
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2004-06-25 14:05

Our Tulsa Comm. Band played M, N, & Nite at several concerts, ?a year ago?, greatly enjoying it, even the tough parts. Being blessed with several skilled sop cl'ists {[this] Daddy Plays Bass, cl that is,}, we had variety in the solo playing. Among what classics we play, this ranks rite up with Der RosenKavalier on "band popularity", not quite as difficult as Der, tho, Don

Thanx, Mark, Don

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 Re: Von Suppe Morning, Noon and Night
Author: BobD 
Date:   2004-06-25 15:32

The first warhorse I ever tackled as a youngster....and I still love it.

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 Re: Von Suppe Morning, Noon and Night
Author: Bradley 
Date:   2004-06-25 22:07

I doubt he has a problem with it, but it's a nice effect sometimes. Especially with how the 1st clarinet in the All County Band down here in Miami sounded on it at times, I would've preferred a cello substitution. My wind ensemble performed Offenbach's La Belle Heléne several times this past year with 4 cellists, and apart from the fact that we used more celli than Col. Gabriel did when he performed it (and the version was arranged for him) we only got good comments from audience members including him.


Bradley



Post Edited (2004-06-26 00:44)

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 Re: Von Suppe Morning, Noon and Night
Author: LeOpus1190s 
Date:   2004-06-26 21:37

Don't get me wrong, I generally favor the vast colors an orchestra possesses over a concert band, but it seems out of place to me, to have a cellist playing this solo though I must admit it is a little smoother due to the cello's ability to utilize vibrato on the instrument.

Anyhow, I just wanted to hear the clarinet, its my favorite band piece :)

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 Re: Von Suppe Morning, Noon and Night
Author: coasten1 
Date:   2004-06-28 18:54

Hmm in the version that I played, the solo was done by a tenor sax. The 1st clarinet part had the cues.

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 Re: Von Suppe Morning, Noon and Night
Author: diz 
Date:   2004-06-29 06:54

I once played in a concert band that accompanied the Bruch violin concerto ... it was horrid (the violinist was good, the arrangement was reasonable, but they just clashed).

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 Re: Von Suppe Morning, Noon and Night
Author: Iacuras 
Date:   2005-03-24 18:40

We are currently playing this peice in my Wind Ensemble (In a concert tonight, actually) and the beggening solo is played by 1st clarinet and alto sax in unison. It sounds really good. However, I did love the Cello version the USAF band did.

Steve
"If a pretty poster and a cute saying are all it takes to motivate you, you probably have a very easy job. The kind robots will be doing soon."
"If you can't learn to do something well, learn to enjoy doing it poorly."

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 Re: Von Suppe Morning, Noon and Night
Author: ken 
Date:   2005-03-24 23:12

LeOpus1190s wrote: "does Col. Graham have a problem with solo clarinet? I was just kind of annoyed that everything that was supposed to be solo wasn't."

--Lowell Graham was/is a clarinet player, and without second-guessing his musical motive I can answer the question by affirming I spent my entire USAF Band career, all 24 years of it avoiding the man like a plague (and was successful). v/r Ken

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 Re: Von Suppe Morning, Noon and Night
Author: DAVE 
Date:   2005-03-25 02:18

If I am not mistaken, the Air Force Band regularly employs a small section of cellos for all their performances.

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 Re: Von Suppe Morning, Noon and Night
Author: Alseg 
Date:   2005-03-25 16:23

Circa 1962 we did this piece with the Phila All City band.....and we invited a cellist. The cellist went on to have a pro career.
Perhaps the cello solo is so well etched in the minds of audiences, that the arranger did not wish to alter it

.....frankly, I think a bassoon solo or tenor sax would work ok...or a great baritone horn. Yes....euphonium or baritone horn...that would work nicely

I wonder how the River City Brass Band (PittsburghPro wind group) or the American River wind symph. would handle it...or Eastman Roch. winds (Finnell, recently deceased)


Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
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 Re: Von Suppe Morning, Noon and Night
Author: BobD 
Date:   2005-03-25 21:27

"Yes....euphonium or baritone horn"......or Mellophone, which is what we employed last time I played it.......

Bob Draznik

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