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Author: Lisa
Date: 2004-06-19 16:46
Thanks for sharing! I remember back when the young oboe player joined them from Make a Wish. Did I miss how this guy originally decided to join in? Was it exclusively to write the article???
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Author: kenabbott
Date: 2004-06-19 18:19
I think that he contacted the orchestra with the idea. Dan has been known to play wind trios in the sub-basement of the NY Times with me and larryb, the phantom basset horninst. Larry, what do you know about how he set the story up?
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Author: larryb
Date: 2004-06-19 19:12
Ken,
I don't know how he does it - he's a miracle worker.
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Author: Kevin
Date: 2004-06-19 21:17
Wonderful report!!!
What field does Mr. Wakin regularly cover for NYT?
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Author: fredackerman
Date: 2004-06-20 00:46
GBK, I missed this while reading the paper, thank you for giving me another chance! This is really interesting.
Fred
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Author: larryb
Date: 2004-06-20 03:23
Kevin,
Mr. Wakin is regularly a reporter for the NY Times Metro desk - he specializes in religion news and issues.
He is also known to check this bulletin board from time to time.
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Author: William
Date: 2004-06-20 17:17
I did not read this report--although I would have liked to--because I did not want to provide the NYT with all of the "personal" info required in the sign-up process for a password. Enough junk mail comes via the internet as it is, so if someone could just "hit on" a couple of the more interesting points made by sitting next to Drucker in the NY Phil, I'd appreciate that.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2004-06-20 17:31
William wrote:
> I did not read this report--although I would have liked
> to--because I did not want to provide the NYT with all of the
> "personal" info required in the sign-up process for a password.
> Enough junk mail comes via the internet as it is
William... The sign-up for the NY Times is basically 7 generic question which you can put any answer you want (ex: Age: 95, Country of residence: Afghanistan, etc...) This should not be a deterent to registering, as access to their archives is invaluable.
For the record, I have not been aware of any spam emails from the NY Times registration process. (Your email address is probably harvested just as much from the woodwind.org site as any place else)..GBK
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Author: Ralph G
Date: 2004-06-20 18:59
I've been registered with the NY Times site for many years, probably since about '96 when we trusted the Net more and actually put in truthful info, and I've never gotten a single spam from them.
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Artistic talent is a gift from God and whoever discovers it in himself has a certain obligation: to know that he cannot waste this talent, but must develop it.
- Pope John Paul II
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Author: bill28099
Date: 2004-06-20 20:27
I too have been signed up with the NY Times for a number of years and to my knowledge have never received unsolicited email from them nor have they sold my email address to any bulk mailers. However, I have been in the IT business since the early 60's and always take precautions against spammers. A few simple rules will help reduce and protect you from these purveyors of garbage.
1) Never respond to spam and ask to be removed from their mailing list. This just lets them know they have hit an active email address, i.e., it encourages them to send more.
2) Never give out your "real" email address except to trusted friends and business associates. Use a throw away address to sign up for things (NY Times, eBay and this BB included), respond to warranty cards, ask for information and chat online. Hotmail, Yahoo, Netscape, etc., can provide you for free such an address. Some ISPs give you multiple email addresses, use one for this purpose.
3) Use an ISP who actively pursues spammers, AOL comes to my mind at the moment but there are others. It is my opinion that the Microsoft Corporation through its ownership of Hotmail actively promotes the generation of spam as corporate policy. Hotmail is trying to sell you storage space and counts junk/bulk mail as part of your storage allotment, which is also the smallest of the free services My Hotmail account attracts 100 times the amount of spam as does my personal email account. Even my Yahoo account only picks up a couple a day and they do not count junk/bulk mail as part of the 100 M of allotted storage.
4) Report all spam to your ISP and block those domains that are creating spam and from which you receive no email correspondence.
A great teacher gives you answers to questions
you don't even know you should ask.
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Author: diz
Date: 2004-06-20 21:59
GBK - do you find it surprising that such a brilliant orchestra fosters young musicians? It's in their best interest to do this I think. Our orchestras have similar programs in place ... it's great to see and must have been a buz for the young man. Nice program too, by the way!
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Author: danw
Date: 2004-06-21 18:30
Lisa,
As certain others have pointed out, I'm a reporter for The New York Times. I'm on the Metro Desk. My beat is religion, but we have wide latitude to write for other sections too.
How did this story come about? It was remarkably simple, actually. I approached the public relations department and told them about my background. They were receptive, sought approval from various in the orchestra (see the story) and that was that.
Diz,
"Young man?" Thanks!
And thanks to all for the positive reaction. As you can imagine, it was a great, and enlightening, experience.
d
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Author: Ralph G
Date: 2004-06-21 18:44
Dan,
What brand do you play? The approval of your performance by many here hinges on whether or not you answer "Buffet." ![[grin]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie5.gif)
In any case, great job! No doubt in many amateur clarinet geek circles you're now considered a god. Tribute and virgins to follow.
o
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Artistic talent is a gift from God and whoever discovers it in himself has a certain obligation: to know that he cannot waste this talent, but must develop it.
- Pope John Paul II
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Author: Ron Jr.
Date: 2004-06-21 20:10
I loved the article. He puts the reader right in his shoes. He captures Stanley Drucker's sardonic humor very well and his obsession with mouthpieces. I wonder if he's still using his wooden one or has moved on to hand-hewn obsidian?
And I chortled at the comment that the Bass Clarinetist had only four notes in the symphony! I guess the argument that violinists should get paid more because they play more notes doesn't seem so unreasonable....
The article was quite a coincidence because on Saturday night I decided to re-read a part of Pino's Clarinet book. Out fell an article that I had clipped by Dan Wakin about how he used to play duets on the streets of New York when he was a youth. As I re-read the article I wondered what he was doing with his clarinet playing and who he was. Then on Sunday lo and behold, there he is on the cover of the City section. Amazingly fresh after all these years.
Ron Jr.
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Author: susieray
Date: 2004-06-21 20:16
I signed up, but skipped the part that asked for personal information and it still worked fine......
sue
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Author: danw
Date: 2004-06-21 20:27
ralph g.,
indeed, buffets.
and a vandoren 11.6 mouthpiece, V12 3.5 reeds, Lubyen plastic mouthpiece ca. 1977, for those interested.
d
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2004-06-22 01:29
Dan,
I could identify the Luyben ligature easily (I still play on my 1970s Portnoy BP02 and a 1970s Luyben with the brass screws like you have).
I really enjoyed the still picture with the article of you at work on the clarinet. However, what I was most fascinated with was the hair color (or lack of hair) of most of those players surrounding you.
HRL
PS Nice embouchure!
Post Edited (2004-06-22 02:40)
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Author: AJN
Date: 2004-06-22 22:43
Mr. Wakin,
The 11.6 seems for some mysterious reason to be one of the least frequently mentioned Vandoren models. In fact, the only people I know of who are partial to it are you and me (though I also happily use a Gregory Smith Chedeville 1+ and a Fobes 4L). Have you tried Gonzalez FOF 3.25 reeds on the 11.6, by the way? They work quite well for me.
Alan Nussbaum
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Author: danw
Date: 2004-06-24 15:22
alan,
never heard of the gonzalez reeds but thanks for the tip.
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Author: William
Date: 2004-06-24 16:07
DanW--I'm curious as to the mpc exchange between you and Stanley. What did you trade, and which ones did you receive?
Good reporting--when do you go to bat for the Mets??
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Author: Eileen
Date: 2004-06-24 19:29
Very enjoyable articles. I was amazed to learn that Lee Rocker is Stanley Drucker's son! I last saw Lee Rocker perform his wild style of stand-up bass playing with his own band and then backing up Scotty Moore (Elvis Presley's famous guitarist). How funny that his own father is a giant in the classical world. I'd never guess it from the photos but maybe Lee Rocker's ducktail hairstyle and numerous tattoos obscure the resemblance.
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Author: john gibson
Date: 2004-06-24 19:55
GBK....I'm about to sign up and read the article.....Thanks.....
BILL28099....
Better re-think AOL as a provider that keeps personal info ..personal....
Go read yesterdays news....and you'll see that an employee of AOL sold
92 million names (email addresses) to spammers....and boy is he facing multiple federal charges !!!!!!
JG....the clarinator
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