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 Double Major
Author: n_hanson12 
Date:   2004-06-03 23:03

I don't know if any one here has done this, but does anyone think it would be a good idea to double major in music ed and clarinet performance? Is there really any point in it?
I'm sorry, I'm just really having doubts about what I want to do. Sometimes I don't think I'm good enough to go for clarinet performance, but I don't want to "settle" for education if I could have made it as a performer.
Any thoughts?

~Nicki



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 Re: Double Major
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2004-06-03 23:07

Why not go for it? If you can afford the extra classes, and don't mind being in college a little longer than for just ONE major, there's really no reason not to do it if you want to.

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: Double Major
Author: Hank Lehrer 
Date:   2004-06-03 23:56

Hi Nicki,

Don't you think you should find a possible school first and then see about what options for minors and dual majors are avaiable?

You may be able to structure a viable minor. However, in music education, the curriculum is pretty tight with vocal lesson and classes, instrumental methods and lessons, piano, theory, conducting, elementary methods, group performance requirements, etc...

Let's not put the cart before the horse. Figure out your major first and then fill in any gaps. Careful planning here (use a Gantt Chart) will pay off with dividends later. Course sequening as required with pre-requisities and co-requisites must be considered carefully. The first year will be pretty much general courses in your major as well as general education. You can make your alternate decision later.


HRL



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 Re: Double Major
Author: Ed 
Date:   2004-06-04 00:44

Of course, getting a major in music education will not prevent you from having the opportunity to play. I know many fine players who have ed degrees. Nobody asks to see your degree when hiring you for a job.

That said, I went to school for a double major in performance and education. It gave me exposure to some things and extra training that I otherwise would not have gotten. It was also a 5 year program which was excellent for me. I went on to get my MM in performance. I have always felt the choice I made was a good one and never regretted it. Work as hard as you can and try to reach what you really want.

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 Re: Double Major
Author: msroboto 
Date:   2004-06-04 05:11

I would suggest that before you make a choice in your teen years that you might be "settling" for education...you better decide if this something that you really want to do with the rest of your life.

You might want to consider whether you might be better off going for performance and something else that you have passion for.

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 Re: Double Major
Author: msloss 
Date:   2004-06-04 12:46

Nicole -- What really goes into a performance major that you can't get in an education major? As long as you find a program that gives you the opportunity to take lessons with the top faculty instructors, play in the good ensembles, and take electives in your instrument of interest, how much more is there? I switched from performance to composition half way through my program and ended up taking nearly all the same courses, just with the addition of composition classes and private instruction. Plenty of band and orchestra directors out there that are also working musicians. One discipline does not exclude the other.

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 Re: Double Major
Author: Pappy 
Date:   2004-06-04 13:03

msloss wrote:

> Nicole -- What really goes into a performance major that you
> can't get in an education major? As long as you find a program
> that gives you the opportunity to take lessons with the top
> faculty instructors, play in the good ensembles, and take
> electives in your instrument of interest, how much more is
> there? I switched from performance to composition half way
> through my program and ended up taking nearly all the same
> courses, just with the addition of composition classes and
> private instruction. Plenty of band and orchestra directors out
> there that are also working musicians. One discipline does not
> exclude the other.

I agree. It is also possible to supplement you BME with "extra" performance courses/work, thus making your BME lean more to performance without a true double major. MANY working musicians I know today are Music Ed folks....some don't teach (other than privately) but are primarily performers.



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 Re: Double Major
Author: freak4mahler 
Date:   2004-06-04 16:56

It all depends on your mindset. If you have no doubts that you want to play your whole life then pick Clar. performance. It takes a lot of hours in the practice room but if it's what you want to do then it should be loads of fun! But if you double major, you have to fulfill your education degree with lots of other classes and stuff, and you won't have much time to practice for performance. Performance takes up a lot of time with practice and Education takes up a lot of time with other credits you have to fulfill. You won't have much time to do anything, let alone SLEEP! Education is great. There are lots of good fields you could pursue with that degree. One more thing for you to contemplate. A performance degree is just a sheet of paper. It ultimatly means you practiced your butt off. And after all of that practice it's The rigorous audition process. With an education degree you can become a band director of whatever and actually get a steady salary and benefits that you wouldn't get if you were a private teacher.

It's your choice and nobody else's. listen to everyone's advice but choose what's right for you. Performance is a scary road because there aren't a lot of positions open and your not assured a jop playing with low salary groups and your not assured a meal everyday. Private teaching is very honorable, but you don't get benefits and your always hasaling students to pay you. Good luck and search yourself and you will make the right decision.

~BAB

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 Re: Double Major
Author: ChenWeinstein 
Date:   2004-06-04 18:01

You might consider McGill University in Montreal. An Ivy League-quality education at a bargain price. In fact, it may even be cheaper than your state school. I believe they have a BMus./BEd. program.

I almost went there when i thought that Stanford had ****ed up my entrance scholarships. Luckily, they straightened things out. Oh well...I can't stand cold weather and academics at Stanford should be just as good anyways (i hope!).

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 Re: Double Major
Author: Cindy 
Date:   2004-06-05 06:07

I know going and lookin at USC they offer a 5 year masters program for music ed that at the end you get a masters degree in music ed and a bachelors in music performance. Yeah, cool, wanna go for that!

So many instruments to play........so little time to play them!

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