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Author: Igloo Bob
Date: 2004-05-23 05:17
from virtualsheetmusic.com for $4, and my first thought was "that looks fun". My second thought was "this isn't much harder than our tryout pieces for All-State back in New Mexico. I could play this on my Bass Clarinet." And my 3rd and final thought was "...at solo and ensemble this year. I'll blow Reed out of the water."
Reed is the name of another Bass Clarinet high school player in Alaska, and we've had a friendly competition for some time now over just who the best in the state is, as the two of us always take 1st and 2nd in everything in the state. All-State really can't prove anything, as the tryout music is inevitably very technically easy, and the tryouts aren't live, you send in a tape, giving you the chance to perfect an already easy group of tryout pieces. Solo & Ensemble, then, is a lot of fun, as he and I constantly try to one-up each other, and I think that in that spirit of friendly challenge, why not play the Weber Concertino?
In any case, none of that is really important, I just like telling stories. My question is, is there anything special to playing the Weber Concertino on the Bass as opposed to normal Clarinet? The notes are a little high, but nothing I can't handle and the only technical stuff that look like a huge challenge are the insane runs in the last quarter of the piece.
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Author: Kevin
Date: 2004-05-23 13:43
You may want to try reading this thread from some 5 years ago.
http://www.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=14529&t=14450
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Author: RAMman
Date: 2004-05-23 22:54
Try playing it at normal clarinet pitch...that'll give you the challenge you so obviously require.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2004-05-24 03:09
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My question is, is there anything special to playing the Weber Concertino on the Bass as opposed to normal Clarinet? Well, probably not much. I mean, the fingerings are the same, the range is the same (albeit an octave lower) so it really shouldn't be too much different. The only thing that would be a challenge is to get the right 'sound' out of it. He wrote it for Bb clarinet because he wanted that high sound. He wanted that brightness. See if you can get that bright/cheerful sound when it's supposed to be there. See how ominous you can play those minor variations. Just have fun!
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: Igloo Bob
Date: 2004-05-24 06:10
Another question, after reading the thread Kevin posted. In one of the later responses, someone mentioned "the horns come back in at this time", which I'm assuming is the French Horn? The version I downloaded is for Clarinet and Piano, are there several different versions of this piece? I also found a recording online to give me a feel of the piece, and noticed that the recording differs from my sheet music in a couple places, the difference almost consistently being a turn that isn't listed in my music, like in measure 24, the recording has a half note, with a turn leading into 4 16th notes, while my sheet just has a half note tied to 4 16ths. This probably isn't a big deal, but I'm just curious, is this one of those pieces that interpretation by many people over the years has lead to many different versions being printed? And though I asked this earlier, I'll re-ask, as questions asked in the middle of a thread can sometimes get lost, was there originally a full-orchestral version of the Concertino?
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Author: JessKateDD
Date: 2004-05-24 13:23
Weber wrote the concertino for clarinet and orchestra. It is rarely performed exactly as Weber wrote it. Most editions and performances are littered with others' "better ideas". In m. 24, Weber did not write a grupetto, though it is often performed with one.
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2004-05-24 14:35
I'm not sure what you mean by "full orchestra" but the piece was originally composed for 1 flute, 2 oboes, 2 bassoons, 2 horns, 2 trumpets, tympani and strings. What you downloaded was a piano reduction, quite possibly (probably? definitely?) not by Weber.
BTW, IMHO, the bass clarinet version is best performed, as it probably was originally -- with concert band. ![[right]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie8.gif)
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2004-05-24 15:59
<< It is rarely performed exactly as Weber wrote it. Most editions and performances are littered with others' "better ideas". >>
Also keep in mind that in some eras (especially baroque, which this piece doesn't fall under, and to a lesser degree, romantic) and styles (especially vocal, which Weber DID write a lot of), many of the turns and grace notes were not written in, but were implied, according to the performance practices of the time. Just because it's not written, doesn't mean it isn't there (though one should also take care not to add things without proper taste).
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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