 The Clarinet BBoard
|
Author: Ralph G
Date: 2004-05-19 16:00
For the first movement of Weber 2, I've gone through several fingerings for the high A and Bb, but none of them offer much in resonance; it seems like the sound is produced mostly by the mouthpiece and is only slightly removed from an in-tune squeal.
Any suggestions for good fingerings or ways to improve the quality of those notes? I'm using an R-13, in case anyone has any Buffet-specific resonance tips.
Thanks.f
________________
Artistic talent is a gift from God and whoever discovers it in himself has a certain obligation: to know that he cannot waste this talent, but must develop it.
- Pope John Paul II
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: javier garcia m
Date: 2004-05-19 16:06
For high Bb, coming from high F, I use
RTxxxC#/xxxF (or RTxxxG#/xxxC) specially useful if you play F with RTxxxC#/xxx but also good for RToxxC#/oooEb sliding the little finger from Eb to C key.
For high A, RToxx/EboooAb (or RToxx/BboooEb) the side key for right index.
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: mbyerly
Date: 2004-05-19 16:37
My favorite high Bb fingering (and the one I use for Weber 2) is R(no T) xxx|xxxC. It's like fingering C-in-the-staff without using the thumb hole. I also use R(no T) oxo|ooo (and R(no T) oxx|ooo), but I find that the first fingering usually has nicer tone.
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: Ralph G
Date: 2004-05-19 16:44
Help me keep the notation straight -- does "x" mean fingered or not?a
________________
Artistic talent is a gift from God and whoever discovers it in himself has a certain obligation: to know that he cannot waste this talent, but must develop it.
- Pope John Paul II
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2004-05-19 17:09
For the high A, I use the fairly standard fingering -- high E, but moving the right little finger down to the F#/C# key.
For the high Bb, I use the "long" fingering for the F just before it (all fingers down plus the C#/G# key) and add the throat Ab key to that for the Bb.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: GBK
Date: 2004-05-19 18:03
Ah ha... the famous A/Bb question. So many choices...what to do?
For the A6:
The standard A6 fingering is fine, although I prefer to add the Eb/Bb right side key (#4) for additional resonance. Thus A6 would be:
TR o x x (Eb/Bb) / o o o (F#/C#)
For the Bb6 there are a few excellent choices:
If you play the preceeding F6: TR o x x (C#/G#) / o o o (Ab/Eb) ,
then play the Bb6: TR + (throat G#key) o x x (C#/G#) / o o o (F#/C#)
If you play the preceeding F6 closed: TR x x x (C#/G#) / x x x
then play the Bb6: TR + (throat G# key) x x x (C#/G#) / x x x (F/C)
There are 2 or 3 other excellent possibilites. Let me know if you need more ...GBK
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: Ralph G
Date: 2004-05-19 18:04
Much obliged for the help. Some of these I've tried, others I haven't. Maybe it's more an embouchure issue to keep from sounding so squealy.
One more question -- any fingerings/tips for smoothly slurring from the chalumeau D to the high F in the middle section? Right now I have to give it a little air separation with my tongue against the top of my mouth, and with both the standard and long F fingerings there's a noticeable bump in the transition.
________________
Artistic talent is a gift from God and whoever discovers it in himself has a certain obligation: to know that he cannot waste this talent, but must develop it.
- Pope John Paul II
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: Ralph G
Date: 2004-05-19 18:10
Ah, GBK got in under the wire before I posted my thanks. That A looks promising, as I'm having more trouble with that than the Bb.
I've never done a solo performance before, but my community orchestra tapped me to do the first movement at the concert we have scheduled for next spring, so this'll be the first time I've ever hung 'er out there for all to hear. I wanna get this polished.
I may call on John Butler for an overhaul before then -- I want my horn tip-top.t
________________
Artistic talent is a gift from God and whoever discovers it in himself has a certain obligation: to know that he cannot waste this talent, but must develop it.
- Pope John Paul II
Post Edited (2004-05-19 18:13)
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: Tara
Date: 2004-05-19 19:16
I suggest Tom Ridenour's book of altissimo fingerings. It's actually called "Clarinet Fingerings- a comprehensive guide to the performer and educator". He lists 8 suggestions for an A and 16 for a Bb. Good book to have handy when you're searching for some alternatives!
Tara
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: GBK
Date: 2004-05-19 19:24
A good fingering reference text (Ridenour, Sim, etc...) is certainly a good addition to one's library, but as I've written numerous times, the choice of fingerings (especially in the high register) is often predicated upon the note before and the note after.
Tuning, of course, is of paramount importance...GBK
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2004-05-20 14:50
... and sometimes the best way to find a solution to a fingering problem (especially in the high register) is to look at alternate fingerings for the note before and/or the note after...
Best regards,
jnk
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
The Clarinet Pages
|
 |
.jpg){kind=small}
.jpg){kind=small}
.jpg){kind=small}
.jpg){kind=small}
.jpg){kind=small}
.jpg){kind=small}
