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Author: SomethingCopland
Date: 2004-05-08 20:36
What teachers stack up to be the better ones to study with in order that one might become a true performer, i.e. soloist?
I know that
Yehuda,
Deborah,
David,
are good teachers. Who's the best?
If this board is actually worth something, I'm betting that I'll get at least some response that makes sense and answers my question.
Thanks everyone,
GMDC
Stanley, Sydney, Russ, Michelle, David, Deborah, Chuck, Jon, Ricardo, Marc, Sabine, Elsa, Laura, John, Larry, Robert, Paul---They all know Copland.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2004-05-08 21:02
SomethingCopland wrote:
> Who's the best?
>
> If this board is actually worth something, I'm betting that
> I'll get at least some response that makes sense and answers my
> question.
A bit condescending to those of us actually contributing, don't you think?
If anyone tells you that someone "is the best", be assured that they're wrong, in at least some sense.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2004-05-08 21:13
The cold hard facts:
A clarinet instructor is like a batting coach. He'll give you some advice, but in the end it's up to you to hit the ball.
You've got to spend the time in the batting cage.
On the other hand, some people are born natural hitters.
Others have the best batting coaches that money can buy and still can't hit .200 ...GBK
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Author: RAMman
Date: 2004-05-08 22:41
The best teachers in the world are...
Steve, Jim, Andrew, etc. etc.
Oh yes, I'll just give you a completely meaningless list, clearly you like them.
I hear that Norris is outstanding...
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Author: Bellflare
Date: 2004-05-09 01:55
Based on success of students one could agrue (interminably)
The Donald (not Trump)
the Klugger
Kalman
Abe (or ebA)
Stanley H.
Stubbins
Chas. N
but who will be the next Bonade???
This might be a sleeper....and NOT in the traditional school and not even a conservatory. Hmmmm....I am Inclined ![[rotate]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smiley25.gif) not to speculate.
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Author: Clarinetist
Date: 2004-05-09 07:46
Others have said already approximately what I now say in my post, but I say it nevertheless.
Although, You have to practise yourself to become a musician, I have to say that some teachers have the skill to motivate their student´s to develop better players than others. My opinion is that a good teacher doesn´t have to be a good player, but one that can make you understand things and it´s a plus if he/she can also be funny.
But as I said you have to practise...a lot. Your teacher can´t "do it" for you.
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Author: SomethingCopland
Date: 2004-05-09 17:21
Thanks for the excellent advice, yo!
Also, Mark, you never respond to anything. If you think I'm condescending to anything, then maybe you should know that truly I am below the ability of anyone on this board and that I could never amount to the outstanding success of those on this board ever.........ever. And I know that. I simply made the point that you proved by the first re-post.
Thanks
Why do people spell practice practise? Is that a GB spelling or something?
Why list whole names when they are as well known to others, but of course not me, as they are.
OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HEHEHE!!
Deborah Chodacki
Yehuda Gilad
David Shifrin
WHO THE is Abe? and what about the rest. Do you think I know of anyone or anything? Think again, all!
GMDC
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Stanley, Sydney, Russ, Michelle, David, Deborah, Chuck, Jon, Ricardo, Marc, Sabine, Elsa, Laura, John, Larry, Robert, Paul---They all know Copland.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2004-05-09 18:29
SomethingCopland wrote:
> Also, Mark, you never respond to anything.
Interesting point. Strange, though.
> I simply made the
> point that you proved by the first re-post.
I don't get your point. Your original question was never answered; the common sense answers that have been given out a hundred times were posted yet again.
> Why do people spell practice practise?
Because it's a perfectly legitimate spelling. Check <http://www.m-w.com for a good online dictionary.
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Author: Ed
Date: 2004-05-09 19:02
I agree with all of the posts that the most important point is practice. On top of that listen to everything you can, not just clarinetists and not just classical.
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Author: SomethingCopland
Date: 2004-05-09 21:09
Thanks for the answers Dr. Charette! and everyone!
Who is a good teacher for soloistic interpretaion?
I'd guess maybe David Shifrin, but would soloists such as Sabine Meyer, or Jon Manasse be essentially gurus on the topics of soloistic interpretation, or would it be the case that soloists might not stress soloistic techniques as much as a teacher like Richard Hawkins, Fred Ormand, or Robert Spring?
Stanley, Sydney, Russ, Michelle, David, Deborah, Chuck, Jon, Ricardo, Marc, Sabine, Elsa, Laura, John, Larry, Robert, Paul---They all know Copland.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2004-05-09 21:20
SomethingCopland wrote:
> Thanks for the answers Dr. Charette! and everyone!
I don't have my doctorate at the moment. I spend too much time on the site (where I gues I don't contribute anything)
> soloists might not stress soloistic techniques as much as a
> teacher like Richard Hawkins, Fred Ormand, or Robert Spring?
Richard Hawkins doesn't stress soloistic techniques in his teaching AFAIK; I know him pretty well as he was my son's teacher for a few years.
Fred Ormand's students likewise; while I don't know Fred (other than meeting him once or twice) his students, a number of who I do know, haven't mentioned to me any stress other than a very good solid base at the undergrad level.
Robert Spring does teach a number of different modern techniques, but not exclusively.
Where did you learn that they stress soloistic techniques? If they do, it's a recent thing.
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Author: RAMman
Date: 2004-05-09 21:31
Practice and practise...
Apparently practise is a 'GB' spelling...so I'll stand up for it as a Brit! hehehe
Practice...is a noun...(so I can't say, 'I'm doing some practice', but I can say 'that practice was very worthwhile')
Practise...is a verb...(so I can say, 'I'm doing some practise')
However, apparently in the states you use practice for both...it's listed in my dictionary as both a noun and a verb, but only if you're American...I am so confused!
Mind you...we are strange...leftenant? Tottenham becomes...Totnam, we love to be eccentric!!
If I've said anything incorrect here, please correct me!
Also realised my signature needs changing!!!!
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Author: Bellflare
Date: 2004-05-10 00:11
..........and Grosvenor is grahvsner
And Abe is, FYI, Galper
And those who "know" Copland...is that knowledge of his music, the man personally, his life in general, or in the biblical/carnal sense???
Tex, AL, Bobby, Ray,Maurice.....they all knew Glenn Miller
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Author: LeOpus1190s
Date: 2004-05-10 12:38
I have worked with only one of the three you have stated.
Mr. Gilad is a fantastic teacher, one of the best if not the best teacher I have ever had a lesson from. I felt so inspired and I know there was a noticible difference in my playing after just one less. And I don't necessarily have any big issues in my playing.
Another teacher who I think made a significant impact would be Julie Deroche whom teaches at depaul (not very much though, shes more with leblanc now) She is a lot like Mr. Gillad in her teaching. I think any student who has worked with her would vouch for the amazing gift she has for teaching the art of the clarinet. The same goes for Mr. Gilad as well.
Russ Dagon, soon to be retired from Northwestern is another very good teacher. One of his students just recently won the richmond audition. Very encouraging and inspiring teacher. But as I said, unfortunatly he will not be teaching much anymore.
I judge techers based on if their students are getting jobs. I know there are a lot of factors as far as the level of talent and ability to be organized when it comes to becoming a good mission.
Particularly Mr. Gilad, his students are winning the jobs. I know this will enflame many people but results are what count.
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