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Author: kenbear
Date: 2004-05-04 23:48
Any Wurlitzer reform boehm players out there? Need to talk mouthpieces.
Thanks
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Author: Brandon
Date: 2004-05-05 03:29
Please email me privately with questions you might have. I have some knowledge of the Wurlitzer line of clarinets, and might be able to steer you in the right direction. If push comes to shove, it might be best to contact Wurlitzer directly.
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Author: Synonymous Botch
Date: 2004-05-05 11:37
Drop Stephen Fox of Toronto a line concerning mouthpiece choice and German style clarinets, he plays a similar rig.
(Amazing player, too!)
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Author: Jeroen
Date: 2004-05-05 12:23
Not playing Wurlitzer RB myself but I know some people who do.
Most of them play on the Viotto N1 +2 R mpc.
Reeds: VD White Master or Steuer S100 - S900.
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2004-05-05 14:11
kenbear,
I know a couple of guys who play them thangs --- e-mail me privately and I'll pass their names along to you if you'd like. They're not famous players, however.
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Author: leonardA
Date: 2004-05-05 17:34
Wurlitzer saxes were generally thought to be stencils. Who makes Wurlitzer clarinets?
Leonard
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Author: thomas.b
Date: 2004-05-05 18:16
Try essentially the same as for normal Oehler clarinets.
In Germany most people in orchestras play Viotto facings on Zinner blancs(for Oehler clarinets). A common setup: Viotto G3 facing and Vandoren white master 3 . (THis is also my favorite setup for Oehler clarinets)
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2004-05-05 21:34
During the 1970's quite a few plastic Vito clarinets (soprano, alto, and bass) were marketed under the Wurlitzer name by the American Wurlitzer company -- no relationship to the current German firm. I believe the saxes mentioned above were also made (or maybe just marketed) by the U.S. Wurlitzer company. In high school I played such a Wurlitzer (Vito) plastic bass clarinet. By the way, sometimes one sees "Vox" plastic soprano and bass clarinets, these are also Vito stencils but have a microphone pickup installed on the barrel or upper joint. You can find the German Wurlitzer homepage at: http://www.wurlitzerklarinetten.de/flash/home.html
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Author: rtaylor
Date: 2004-05-07 20:24
Hi,
I've been playing a set of the Wurlitzer's now for two years and have gone through the whole mouthpiece thing. Karl Leister is a good friend of mine and he has given me some very good advice for this setup. Here goes:
1. Use mainly the Wurlitzer RB mouthpieces to start. The chamber has to match the clarinet. The Viottos apparently do not always match
2. I use Vandoren BLackmaster reeds. along with the string ligature supplied by Wurlitzer.
All in all I get good results. I would recommend the clarinets without any reservations. You just need to be patient in finding the right setup.
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Author: kenbear
Date: 2004-05-11 00:05
Hi rtaylor,
I been trying a bunch of Wurlitzer M3+ mouthpieces from the 1980s as well as some Viottos - Bas de Jong is sending me a N1 +2 to try.
Which Wurlitzer mouthpiece are you/ were you playing and what strength of Black Master?
Thanks
Ken
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Author: Brandon
Date: 2004-05-11 00:21
I do not know too many people who use the Black Master reeds with a Wurlitzer mpc, as the Black Masters are primarily for the Vienessee setup. The White Master reeds are typically used for German mouthpieces.
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Author: Jeroen
Date: 2004-05-11 06:57
Black Masters work very well on the Wurlitzer mpcs with longer facings. Try the L2 - L6 range. I have had some good results with a L6 and a L3*. (Reed 3.5 - 4.0).
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Author: kenabbott
Date: 2004-05-12 08:16
How much are Wurlitzers? How long is the waiting list? Are there any available as used instruments?
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Author: Brandon
Date: 2004-05-12 12:47
Wurlitzers today will run between $3500-$7000 US depending on the exchange rate. These numbers are close guesses, as the bottom figure could be slightly higher and the top number slightly lower. From what I gather, you will need to purchase the case seperately, which can run you even more $$. The typical wait time is typically several years, as Wurlitzer will only make a certin number of clarinets each year. I would imagine there are ways to aquire the instruments sooner. I have seen some used Wurlitzer clarinets on Ebay, but you will not find them too often. But with any used instruments, you must be careful. Several years ago I was in Chicago trying out a set of F Wurlitzer clarinets, and they were just awful. I have played some recently, and they were just amazing. Of all the Wurlitzer clarinets I have played, only the set in Chicago was awful.
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Author: javier garcia m
Date: 2004-05-13 01:37
According to the 2003 Herbert Wurlitzer's catalog, the soloist model (100c, full Oehler system, with low E and F mechanism) is Euros 6,100. Single cases are between Euros 135 and 320. As I'm not very good in German, I don't understand if this prices include the tax or not (the catalog says "zuzüglich Mehrwertsteuer"). The cheapest model (90) is Euros 1,980.
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Author: Mark Pinner
Date: 2004-05-14 08:36
The tenon size on the Wurlitzer is a problem regardless of whether they are Oehler or full Boehm. Vandoren even have a special model for Wurlitzer. Also try the Vintage D unfiled, they are tubbier than both Vandoren equivalents. AW reeds would also make something suitable for Wurlitzer mouthpieces.
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Author: rtaylor
Date: 2004-05-20 15:48
Hi Ken,
Sorry for the late response on your question.
I'm using the Wurlitzer M5 MP with BlackMaster size 3.5 reeds. I like this softer sound and tone of this setup than using whitemaster. The whitemaster has had a too brillant sound to my ears.
robert
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