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Author: CPW
Date: 2004-04-30 20:07
I tried a friend's Spriggy Liggy thingy.
But gosh darn huge mouthpiece cap required to house it.
Anyone here have one....and do you use the cap? it doesnt fit in the standard notch in a case.
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Author: Ed
Date: 2004-04-30 20:43
I often use the Ultimate Ligature made by Francois Louis. It has a very similar design. It has a very small cap that only covers the beak area of the mouthpiece. It is called the smart cap. It would work on the Spriggs Ligature. You can order them from Robertos Woodwind in NY.
www.robertoswoodwind.com
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Author: CPW
Date: 2004-05-01 00:13
Thanks for the heads-up
Done and done.......and maybe a gold X tenor mouthpiece too.
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Author: mw
Date: 2004-05-01 01:01
All the Smart Caps I have seen are plastic, including one I have for an imported Francois Louis some years back? I think metal (or something other than plastic) would be superior. It is true that the Spriggs takes a huge plastic cap & doesn't fit all that well at that.
Post Edited (2004-05-01 13:42)
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Author: L. Omar Henderson
Date: 2004-05-01 01:56
I use a Spriggs Floating Rail Ligature and like it very much. I have also tried the Francois Louis, liked it, but not quite a much as Peter's ligature. The machining and quality of the Spriggs ligature I feel is superior to the Francois Louis and it is more expensive but feel that the addtional cost is worth it. I do use a Smart Cap because of the need to be more compact and move around more than the Spriggs cap allows. This is just my own opinion but have a drawer full of ligatures that do not get used now that I have been using Peter's ligature for the last several years. I have two now because one got broken after a hefty bassoon player stepped on my accessory bag before rehersal. I now have a different system for accessories. I bought another one and sent the broken soldier back to Peter which he cheerfully fixed for free and returned it post paid from Canada - excellent customer service I would say.
The Doctor
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Author: Mark P. Jasuta
Date: 2004-05-01 02:02
My daughter uses the Sprigg's ligature with the (FL) smart cap. She tried the FL ligature but it was a pain to put on correctly.
Regards
Mark
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Author: GBK
Date: 2004-05-01 18:28
The Sprigg ligature which I like quite a bit, on certain mouthpieces, has a large plastic (Vito/Leblanc?) cap which is scored so it can expand to fit on the mouthpiece. However, as you noted it does not fit comfortably in the mouthpiece slot on most clarinet cases.
When I use the Spriggs ligature, I often bring along generic ligature and cap to use when I pack away the mouthpiece, thus putting the Spriggs lig and cap in the accessory compartment of the case...GBK
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Author: beejay
Date: 2004-05-02 07:57
The ligature is magnificent, but the cap is an abomination. I ended up making my own cap using a 35mm film canister lined with cork. It works well and fits inside the mouthpiece compartment.
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Author: mw
Date: 2004-05-02 16:22
Just curious, as we talk about our "cap" dislikes, the European-style "smart" cap [which only protects the top-most area of the Mouthpiece) is an alternative. Have all of you who use alternative "cap" measures seen the SMART cap? That was the original Thread here.
As stated & FWIW, I like the idea of the SMART cap - I would juust like a sturdier non-plastic alternative.
Linings on the inside of Ligatures such as CORK make a lot of sense. Charles Bay has been doing this for years. Thin cork is very sturdy & suitable for this purpose - something I would have doubted except I have a much-used-in-the-past Bay Ligature.
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Author: Peter Spriggs
Date: 2004-05-27 14:00
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Thanks to the discussion on this BB I will be supplying the "Smart Cap" with all my "Floating Rail" ligatures, even bass which until now I have not had a cap for. It may take awhile for supplies to filter down to distributors, but I will start within 10 days on orders placed directly with me.
Thanks to all for the kind comments on my ligature.
Peter Spriggs
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Author: CPW
Date: 2004-05-27 14:31
THANKS. I started this thread. Welcome Peter. Gratifying to note that you check out our little diatribes. Nice product...and I wound up getting one.
I do like the lig. But as long as we have Peter's attention, I do find that it slips on quick changes of clar. (Bb to A) and I am hesitant to overly tighten it. I thougt of putting thin rubber strips on the mpc but that would dampen the vibrations a defeat the purpose.
Any suggestions?
Also...could you possible make the knurled end of the screw larger so it is easier to tighten...I went to hardware store and got rubber end screw covers (Lowes has them in the "hard to find parts" bin) which help to grip the knurl.
What is the thread size on the screw? Obviously a fine machine screw with many threads per inch/mm but I couldnt find a replacement size onto which I could place a larger knurled end.
FWIW the smart cap is OK, BUT I replaced the fuzzy thing that abutts the reed with cork. The FL cap protects the tip, but I would prefer some sort of cap more along the lines of what Consoli makes to fit their ligature, preferably metal.
I got my Spriggs from Davie Cane Co. I would have ordered it from Peter, but I didnt see a order device on the website.
Against the windmills of my mind
The jousting pole splinters
Post Edited (2004-05-28 02:50)
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Author: Peter Spriggs
Date: 2004-05-29 11:38
I have been asked to respond to some of CPWs last questions.
As long as the cork is not too tight on the mouthpiece it is easy to learn how to hold it in such a way that the ligature does not come off. If this were a major problem the principal players in the Seattle, Toronto, Phoenix, Detroit, Colorado, Miami and many other fine orchestras would not be using it. The knurled part of the screw is made the diameter that I found best. I have it so that it is big enough to tighten enough, but small enough that I don't get a lot back for repair due to over tightening it. I won't be giving the thread size, because I would rather not have things changed.
I am not putting those "fuzzy things" with the cap, just the plastic cap.
I do sell these ligatures personally, but they are also available from IMS and Davie Cane as mentioned and in England from Ackerman Music.
I often look at this site when time permits, but rarely post for reasons I have mentioned in the past. It is a great site and I support it. Mark does a great job.
Thanks for your interest!
Peter
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Author: CPW
Date: 2004-05-29 14:02
thanks for the reply. This is a fine lig and engineered very well.
The FL cap has a fuzzy pad within it that touches the reed.
I think this dries out the reed too much, and I replaced it with cork. Being a new user, I was reluctant to tighten enough to avoid slippage...
Apparently the lig can be tighted snugly.
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Author: Peter Spriggs
Date: 2004-05-29 15:20
CPW,
The Smart Cap is available with that "fuzzy thing" inside, but I don't think it is necessary and therefore DO NOT put it in.
Peter
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Author: Ed
Date: 2004-05-29 16:08
"The FL cap has a fuzzy pad within it that touches the reed.I think this dries out the reed too much"
I believe that the intent is that you moisten the pad and it will keep the reed from drying out.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2004-05-29 21:13
Ed has the purpose for the 'fuzzy thing' correct. The directions when I read them say to moisten it with water (probably just dip your finger in water and wipe it on the pad a few times) in order to keep the reed from drying out.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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