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Author: Pappy
Date: 2004-04-26 14:22
Hi All,
First, this is a great bboard. Have been lurking for a while.
So, for my inaugural post: Does anybody have some opinions "comparing and contrasting" the Portnoy BP03 with the Vandoren M13? I own a BP02 and a Kaspar (a 'Michigan" Kaspar originally made for my father). Both serve me well. But since the Kaspar was made for someone other than me, I feel I may be fighting mouthpiece/reed combination issues that I needn't be. I played a BP03 years ago and recall that it focused better and provided more resistance (though I may be remembering this wrong). I play an R13 Bb and a Selmer A. I know there are other mouthpieces out there. But I'm working under the assumption that too many choices will lead to no choice.
Thanks!
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Author: GBK
Date: 2004-04-26 17:00
The M13 and the BPO3 are at 2 different ends of the mouthpiece spectrum.
Just looking at the tip openings alone:
The M13 has a tip opening of 1.005mm (.0395")
The BPO3 has a tip opening of 1.21 mm (.048") ...GBK
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Author: Pappy
Date: 2004-04-26 17:35
GBK wrote:
> The M13 and the BPO3 are at 2 different ends of the mouthpiece
> spectrum.
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> Just looking at the tip openings alone:
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> The M13 has a tip opening of 1.005mm (.0395")
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> The BPO3 has a tip opening of 1.21 mm (.048") ...GBK
Ah, see. I didn't look at that. Thanks for that!
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2004-04-26 17:37
The M13 Vandoren has always been something of a dissapointment to me..they have a tendency to play stuffy and also have a very restricted tonal spectrum...however, the Portnoy facings 03 is pretty open and very lively...
David Dow
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2004-04-26 19:04
Remember you are comparing two very different beasts in some regards..the B Portnoy's are famous for being flexible...whereas the Vandoren M13s are very strict copies of Chedeville's ...but not great copies.
David Dow
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Author: cowboyjonus
Date: 2004-04-27 02:28
ya i dont like the m13 at all i gave it a chance but its too restricting and i just dont like it
jj
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Author: Pappy
Date: 2004-04-27 13:00
Thanks All!
Now last night, I had one of those fickle Mouthpiece/reed nights. I found a reed that just SANG on my Kaspar. Not really interested in a collection of mouthpieces, so I'm probably looking for an excuse not to add another. But the BP02 is just TOO free, so I'll keep playing with it.
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2004-04-27 13:16
Pappy,
I have played a BP02 for about 30 years (I have not let anyone touch it for even the slightest refacing). It still plays great and although I have two spares, the original one is still the #1 MP.
I have two Stowell Wells Schneider 2s that are very good but not as reed friendly as the BP02. Also, the Buffet C and C Crown as well as the older VD 2RV seems to allow me to use many of the same reeds so I would suspect the facing and tip are somewhat similar.
These are the only MPs that I have found that allow me to transition pretty easily. I have not tried any newer classics from the Smith, Morgan, or VD line except a 5RVLyre.
HRL
PS I have a perfect BP03 that I might trade you for something (maybe the Kaspar) :-).
Post Edited (2004-04-27 22:22)
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