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Author: Clarence
Date: 2004-04-17 23:01
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After reading the thread on unstaining clarinets, I decided to try it.
The Selmer CT barrel that has the stain removed is typical of the color of an unstained clarinet piece. I included the matching 'short' barrel for comparison.
The Noblet D barrel has been stained with tan stain.
The Noblet N parts were stained with the tan stain and the barrel was then stained with burgandy stain.
The Noblet Artist Eb clarinet barrel and bell were stained with tan stain.
Post Edited (2004-04-17 23:15)
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Author: ron b
Date: 2004-04-18 05:26
Very nice (clean) job 
...raises some questions, of course.
By what process was the stain removed?
Were the metal rings, notably the bell ring, removed during the de-staining process?
What product was used to re-stain?
What was used to re-gild the logo?
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Author: Clarence
Date: 2004-04-18 17:17
>>By what process was the stain removed?<<
I used a cleaner concentrate that I believe to be citrus based. This bottle of cleaner has been in my posession for about 15 years and is only sold by independant contractors ( or so says the writing on the bottle).
A little cleaner on SCOTTS (tm) Rags-in-a-Box sheet rubbing in the direction of the grain. Removing the black stain to the wood isn't hard, its the restaining that takes time.
>>Were the metal rings, notably the bell ring, removed during the de-staining process?>>
The cleaner concentrate used was so gentle that it didn't remove the logo paint. No need to remove any metal.
>>What product was used to re-stain?>>
Restaining was done with an alcohol based dye named Fiebing's Leather Dye. It is popular with shoe repair shops, comes in 28 colors that can be mixed, and retails locally for $4.95 for 4 oz. That is enough to stain between 50 and 100 clarinets. The colors range from white to black. I have used the black to restain many clarinets.
http://www.fiebing.com/product.asp?typeID=6
>>What was used to re-gild the logo?>>
The paint in the logo is gold-leaf. It was applied with a cotton swab and excess removed with bore oil and paper towel. The excess oil from the gold-leaf was removed with the cleaner solution.
Any kind of liquid on the wood turns it dark until the liquid dries. Oiled areas remain dark.
Post Edited (2004-04-18 17:27)
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Author: john gibson
Date: 2004-04-18 23:59
Clarence....
Couple observations....1)....it's obvious the logos were re-golded at one time because of the grain outside the logos having gold splotches...
2)...having spent a lot of time refinishing antiques...stripping and restaining...the wood on the barrels and bells looks dry. Probably because of the alcohol based stain. Once you re-oil them they will get a lot darker. It's the way wood works.
JG...the Clarinator
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Author: Clarence
Date: 2004-04-19 18:52
John,
The logo paint is not original and since I'm still experimenting with the colors, I didn't spend much time on cleaning up the logo paint. Also none of these pieces have any sealer of any kind.
I pointed out the oil thing just in case someone thinks the color darkness will remain the same.
I used the tan color because that is the lightest 'brown' color I could find locally. I knew I didn't want a dark color. I'm going to try to get some lighter colors from the local shoe repair shop.
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