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Author: LeWhite
Date: 2004-04-09 01:23
Hi guys!
In my youth orchestra we have 3 clarinets, and I'm the third - lucky me I get to play bass or Eb for everything...!
We're about to start The Planets (Holst) and Mahler 1. I'm just wondering what clarinets are required for these?
Thanks in advance.
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Author: Aussie Nick
Date: 2004-04-09 01:50
Holst has 1st 2nd 3rd and Bass. Mahler 1 I have seen done with a few combinations (which I can not exactly remember). I have seen a youth orchestra and a professional orchestra do Mahler 1. The youth orchestra somehow made do with I think 4, maybe 5 players. The professional had something like 7. I could be wrong but from memory there was 1st 2nd 3rd Bass, Eb, and another part which had Eb and Bb.
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2004-04-09 04:13
When I played Mahler 1 about 15-16 years ago there were only 4 different clarinet "parts" (as in scores)...
The way it was scored:
First clarinet: Bb, A, and C
Second clarinet: Bb, A, and C
Third clarinet: Bass, Bb, A, C, and Eb
Fourth clarinet: Bb, A, C, and Eb
The way we did it was this:
First clarinet: Bb, A, and C
Second clarinet: Bb, A, and C
"Third" clarinet: Bass, Bb, A, and C (transposing the 4th clarinet's "second Eb part" to Bb)
"Fourth" clarinet: Eb, and I think Bb A and C...This guy played the "solo" Eb part from my "third" clarinet part on Eb while I played the lower Eb part from the fourth clarinet part on Bb.
Clear as mud, eh?
Katrina
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Author: LeWhite
Date: 2004-04-09 07:42
Ummm yeah thanks for that 'clarification'.... Chances are, they'll want me to play on bass/Eb, so what do you think is the best way to cover the most (and best) parts?
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2004-04-09 14:37
When I did Mahler 1 with a small community orchestra last summer I doubled on bass and the second Eb part, the second clarinet player doubled on the first eefer part, and the principal clarinetist just did Bb/A clarinet --- it worked out fine.
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2004-04-10 17:11
According to the Kalamus website, their edition of Mahler 1 calls for 4 clarinets -- 3 sopranos (one doubling on bass) plus Eb (a separate part). Their edition of Holst's "Planets" calls for 3 soprano clarinets and a separate bass.
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: graham
Date: 2004-04-13 08:51
As stated above, but note re Mahler that the E flat passage within 3rd clarinet is very soloistic, and is playing in harmony with 4th clarinet (i.e. the regular e flat player), but is on the top part at that point. You will not have had the opportunity to warm the instrument up properly. However, the passage in question lies in an easy register, and is at its best when sounding rough and out of tune. What is essential is to play with confidence and swagger. Quality is not required.
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Author: javier garcia m
Date: 2004-04-13 21:52
I never played it, but I always wonder how to swicht from Bass to Eb without noticeable discomfort in your embochure.
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Author: diz
Date: 2004-04-13 22:09
LeWhite ... you weren't one of the six clarinetists that performed Mahler 2nd with the AYO at the Sydney Opera House, were you?? I heard the broadcast, very fine playing indeed.
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2004-04-15 14:31
javier,
Doubling is something you get used to, and the more you do it the easier it gets. Switching between bass and Eb clarinets is not so hard--- what I still find difficult, though, is switching from any single-reed instrument (clarinets and saxes) to flute.
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