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Author: GBK
Date: 2004-03-10 17:22
...and in a related story, just this morning, 4 high profile conductors have quickly begun renegotiating their contracts...GBK
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Author: Bob Schwab
Date: 2004-03-10 22:36
There's not a single musician in the picture looking at the "conductor."
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Author: diz
Date: 2004-03-10 22:40
I'm totally staggered the wonderful Tokyo Philharmonic even entertained the idea, let alone let some bozo-boffin's toy get session time.
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Author: hans
Date: 2004-03-11 01:20
I just saw this thing on TV. What were they thinking? IMO this thing will never be more than a novelty and this time next year we'll be able to buy it on eBay. Just because something can be done with technology doesn't mean it should be.
Hans
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Author: ken
Date: 2004-03-11 01:54
I caught the footage tonight when channel surfing. Maybe, after the gig they could stick a butterfly net in its hand and take it on a field trip. ![[toast]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smiley15.gif)
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Author: diz
Date: 2004-03-11 02:05
Ken, I really laughed at your butterfly comment ... gave me an instant visual (mental note, do NOT guffaw at work again, way too much to explain).
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2004-03-11 07:11
IMO, I think that the money and time spent on this robot could probably have been put to a different, hopefully better use. A waste if you ask me.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: graham
Date: 2004-03-11 07:54
Does it give you the eveil eye if it doesn't like your playing? Until they develop that capacity, it will never replace the human version.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2004-03-11 14:36
Graham -
You don't have to be a conductor to give the evil eye. Benny Goodman had one that could reduce you to a grease spot on the floor.
![[mad]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie9.gif)
Ken Shaw
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Author: Don Poulsen
Date: 2004-03-11 15:02
I bet it will never:
- turn 2 pages of the score at once, since it appears not to have used a score
- accidentally fling its baton in the air, as I've seen Eric Kunzel do
On the other hand, will it ever:
- pause before a piece starts to let an instrumentalist change a reed or string, drain condensation, tune tympani, etc.
- use facial expressions and (non-time-beating) body language to convey information on the character of the piece
- react to a group that is dragging, rushing, playing too loudly, etc.
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Author: David Peacham
Date: 2004-03-11 15:28
Don bets it will never:
" react to a group that is dragging, rushing, playing too loudly, etc."
Why not? It would not be so difficult for it to "listen" to the music and detect if the musicians are out of time with it. It could then give some appropriate gesture. Similarly, it could be programmed to know that mezzoforte, for example, means some number of decibels, and make gestures when the volume is outside some tolerance of the ideal.
The real challenges in building robots are not so much in making them do very specialist tasks like conducting, but in getting them to do everyday tasks like climbing stairs or washing the dishes. Orchestras are much more predictable than piles of dirty plates! Similarly, if it did use a score, one of its most difficult tasks would be picking up a score that had blown off the stand, and finding the right page again.
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If there are so many people on this board unwilling or unable to have a civil and balanced discussion about important issues, then I shan't bother to post here any more.
To the great relief of many of you, no doubt.
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Author: Sylvain
Date: 2004-03-11 15:51
These robots are getting better and better all the time.
I am all for the research and time spent doing someting like that rather than fine tuning the latest type of weapons.
The quadripeds version of the robots AIBO, is getting well trained to play soccer...
http://www.openr.org/robocup/index.html
They have a robot painter, they have computer composers which can make some very nice fugues. Why not?
-Sylvain a robotics fan...
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Sylvain Bouix <sbouix@gmail.com>
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2004-03-11 15:57
I suspect few musicians would notice such a difference.
For the last 2 years our orchestra has played under a different conductor every month in a conductor search.
A robot could be refreshing!
David Dow
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Author: William
Date: 2004-03-11 18:22
Who cares?? Conductors are only good for downbeats and cut offs. Everything else they do in between is merely a distraction to my musical performance. (ducks to avoid baton thrown in my direction)
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Author: Rick Williams
Date: 2004-03-11 18:33
Bob Schwab wrote:
"There's not a single musician in the picture looking at the "conductor."
Bob, if you look at them it only encourages them! The next thing you know they will be trying to dictate tempo and dynamics! Better to never make eye contact.
BTW, does anyone know if Robo Maestro has a built in tuner?
Best
Rick
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Author: Stéphane
Date: 2004-03-12 08:56
I trust this conductor would do wonders with French orchestras, particularly when it comes to deal with unions about rehearsal duration, coffee pauses, room temperature, number of shifts, etc..
After you've heard a work by Mozart, the silence that follows, this is still by Mozart.
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Author: hans
Date: 2004-03-12 12:41
Massa,
It's impressive, that Toyota could design a robot that can play a trumpet. I wonder how it produces the air pressure? And will it pay attention to the robot conductor?
Hans
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Author: fmadison
Date: 2004-03-12 15:20
Hi,
You can read about the robotic Trumpet player here:
http://www.brunei-online.com/bb/fri/mar12w28.htm
He has lungs that produce the air to play the Trumpet. I saw the video on FoxNews and he had great tone and perfect articulation. No Joke!
Also
"The 35-kg as yet unnamed robot has artificial lips which can alter their position as subtly as human lips as air is forced through them, enabling it to play a trumpet as it presses the stops with its hands."
Oh well it's just a matter of time... Robotic Clarinetist...
"Resistance is Futile...." - The Borg
-Frank
It's the wood that makes it good!
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Author: lyn
Date: 2004-03-12 16:38
LOL they aren't watching, no one follows the conductor anyway @@
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