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 Barenboim May Stay in Chicago
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2004-03-03 19:56

The Chicago players have apparently risen up to ask Daniel Barenboim to stay, and he has said he might if there is a 50% vote asking him to. http://www.suntimes.com/output/delacoma/sho-sunday-cso29.html

There was a meeting scheduled for noon today, so we should soon know. http://www.suntimes.com/output/classical/cst-ftr-cso03.html

If Greg Smith is here, and there's not a gag order, perhaps he can tell us something.

Best regards.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Barenboim May Stay in Chicago
Author: BobD 
Date:   2004-03-03 22:29

You don't suppose its the ones he hired, do you?

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 Re: Barenboim May Stay in Chicago
Author: D Dow 
Date:   2004-03-03 23:19

I doubt Barenboim has much say over who plays or not...Chicago Symphony Second players are soloists in their own right.

David Dow

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 Re: Barenboim May Stay in Chicago
Author: Brandon 
Date:   2004-03-04 00:41

CSO Public Relations Director Synneve Carlino said Barenboim "has submitted his resignation and we have accepted it. There's been no change to that."

This was taken from a short article on andante.com. My view on the matter is that since he submitted his resignation, so now it shall be.

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 Re: Barenboim May Stay in Chicago
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2004-03-04 14:11

The CSO players have decided not to hold a referendum, since it might drive a wedge between them and management.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chicago/chi-0403040140mar04,1,4036704.story?coll=chi-newslocalchicago-hed

I think they're probably right, and the story hints that the movement to ask Barenboim to stay involved only a few players.

Best regards.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Barenboim May Stay in Chicago
Author: BobD 
Date:   2004-03-04 14:51

Latest I heard is that he didn't get a majority of the vote

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 Re: Barenboim May Stay in Chicago
Author: D Dow 
Date:   2004-03-04 15:55

The subject of Barenboim leaving is pretty much a set deal. He is in the last recent while doing some super recordings of repetoire which are hard to fault. I have always lover his work in Bruckner yet few people really listen to this music.

Back in the early 70s I was in love with the Bruckner records with Chicago and felt they were criticized wrongfully. In other music others liked him and always I felt North American critics just did not understand where his talents lie.

George Titner conducted in Nova Scotia(nearby) for a long time an was neglected by all, including the orchestra. It was not until he made a groundbreaking set of recordings ealsewhere was he aprreciated for his numerous gifts.

For those who are interested they should listen to Barenboim in Bruckner. he is insightful and unfussy...he is also not one of these obcessed with exact tempi also. The tone he gets from Chicago was always refined.

Its pretty tought to conduct a group for longer than 5 years without it panning out...the average marriage lasts about 7years...so he was there for over 20 and that is nothing to sneeze at!

David Dow

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 Re: Barenboim May Stay in Chicago
Author: VCMM 
Date:   2004-03-05 22:04

Not quite 20 years. Barenboim started his tenure at Chicago in 1991.

As for Bruckner, I am not sure Barenboim's recordings are the way to go. True, Chicago Symphony played outstandingly for Barenboim. If I remember correctly though(and I haven't listened to them in a while), Barenboim had a broad architectural view of these symphonies that somehow didn't really gel. I remember thinking that his reading was a bit too episodic; there would be several well played sections in a movement that ultimately fail to connect into a coherent whole. I think if you are looking for this approach in Bruckner, Tintner's recordings on Naxos work a LOT better. The only thing is that Tintner chose some non-standard versions of the symphonies, some of which are not totally convincing. On the other hand, if you are looking for a more intense and yet lyrical Bruckner, I think Jochum's recordings on DG (with BPO) or EMI (with Dresden!) are very well done.

I think Barenboim's best works have been with Deutsche Staatsoper Berlin. His Beethoven and Schumann symphonies are very very good.

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