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 Another boring metal clarinet survey
Author: jim lande 
Date:   2004-03-02 02:19

Results from the February 2004 survey of metal clarinet prices on eBay

175 auctions closed in February, compared with 152 last year. (However, 12 on leap day)

146 auctions received bids.
$99 was the average bid high bid – however this includes both student and pro models, restored models and damaged models, etc.

105 auctions were for complete, un-restored Bb student models.
$65 average price for these, compared with $61 last year
$51 median price, compared with $46 last year
$54 Std deviation, compared with $35 last year (more very high and very low prices)

6 Restored student Bb auctions
$134 average high bid for these

9 student models appeared to be missing barrels
$37 average high bid for these. (Don’t make this mistake!)

12 pro models (7% of sample), 11 with bids
$374 average for the 11 with bids
final bids ranged from $147 to $768

70% of the listed instruments were made in the U.S.
17% were made in France

35% maker not known
14% Cundy Bettoney
13% Conn
5% H.N. White

most common models: Conn Cavalier and Cundy Bettoney Three Star


Write to me off line if you want auction numbers, dates, reserves for the no bids, etc.

Auctions sorted by date
Price model / maker / country / quality

$ 60.00 Three Star; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student
no bid American Made Easy Play; unknown; unknown; Student
$ 50.00 Laurent Freres; unknown; U.S.; Student
no bid no name shown; unknown; unknown; Student
$ 10.49 Renown; unknown; U.S.; Student
$ 31.00 Continental Colonial; C.G. Conn subsidiary formed in 1923; U.S.; Student
no bid Cadet (introduced 1940); Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student
$ 39.71 Chandler; unknown; U.S.; Student
$ 60.00 Greville - Paris; Trade name for U.S. import instruments; France ?; Student
$ 76.00 Regent; Ohio Band Instrument (probably H.N. White or Reynolds); U.S.; Student/no barrel shown
$ 46.00 The Favorite; Marked New York (Abbott, Bruno, Penzel Muller?); U.S.; Student
$ 37.09 Rene Duval; unknown; Italy; Student
no bid Superior; Paul Dupree; France; Student
$407.31 A. Fontaine; Trade name for U.S. import instruments; Paris; Student/Eb Restored
$ 76.00 No name; unknown; U.S.; Student
no bid American Beauty; unknown; U.S.; Student
$ 41.55 Boston Wonder; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Intermediate/no barrel
$ 18.77 D. Noblet; Leblanc (1904 - current) La Couture & Paris; France; Student
$ 24.49 No name; unknown; U.S.; Student
$ 75.99 Cadet (introduced 1940); Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student
$ 86.59 Guy Hunphrey (4 piece); unknown; France; Student
$ 46.00 Symphony; R. Wurlitzer (1890 - 1930s?) Cincinnati; U.S.; Student
$341.00 Elkhart (Albert System); unknown; U.S.; Student/Albert, some damage
$310.61 Model 524; C.G. Conn ; U.S.; Pro
$146.50 Silva Bet; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Pro
$ 69.00 Three Star; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student/restored
$ 56.50 Victory; Oliver Ditson (1888 - 1931) Boston; U.S.; Student
$ 36.06 Henri Dubois; unknown; France; Student
no bid American Made Easy Play Superior Quality; unknown; unknown; Student
$315.12 Unknown, but 4 piece (Pan American?); unknown; U.S.; Student
$ 56.00 D Noblet; Leblanc (1904 - current) La Couture & Paris; France; Student
$ 24.00 American Artist ; marked William Nuernberger apparently a trade name; Germany; Student/no barrel
no bid Pan American; C.G. Conn & Pan American (1879 - 1941--last metal clarinets?) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
no bid D Noblet; Leblanc (1904 - current) La Couture & Paris; France; Student
$ 41.00 Challenger; unknown; U.S.; Student
$ 41.00 No name; unknown; unknown; Student
$ 73.42 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - 1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 85.00 American Standard; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Student
$ 31.00 Three Star; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student
$ 89.00 A. Fontaine (4 piece); Trade name for U.S. import instruments; Paris; Student/intermediate?
$161.09 Not Clear; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student
$ 50.00 Soloiste; unknown; U.S.; Student
$206.00 Superior Artist; unknown; unknown; Student
$ 31.05 La Chapelle (also marked Carl FIscher); unknown; U.S.; Student
no bid P.X. Laube; Progressive Music Company (but also offered by Bettoney); U.S.; Student/bell unsoldered
no bid no name; unknown; unknown; Student
$ 25.04 Andre Peron ; unknown; France; Student/no barrel
$ 40.07 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - 1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 54.00 Commodore; unknown; unknown; Student
no bid Three Star; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student
$ 49.99 P.X. Laube; Progressive Music Company (but also offered by Bettoney); U.S.; Student
$ 70.01 Elkhart; marked Elkhart Band Instruments; U.S.; Student
$ 34.00 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - 1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 84.99 A. Fontaine; Trade name for U.S. import instruments; Paris; Student/intermediate?
$ 17.00 Pan American Brilliente; C.G. Conn & Pan American (1879 - current) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 67.00 Star; unknown; U.S.; Student
$ 18.50 No name; unknown; unknown; Student/all keys missing
$ 88.33 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - 1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
no bid American Beauty; unknown; U.S.; Student
$768.00 Couesnon ; (double walled) Cousenon & Co (1888 - p 1950); France; Pro/Double walled key of A
no bid La Chapelle; unknown; U.S.; Student
$152.20 Truetone Buescher 730; Buescher (1894 - p1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Pro
$ 26.00 Henry LaVelle; H. Grossman (1921 - 1944?) Cleveland; U.S.; Student
$ 17.50 Madelon; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student/no barrel
no bid American; Harry Pedler Co (1919 - 1936) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$272.00 Silver King; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Pro
$102.50 Holton ; (no model name shown, but #221) Holton (1907 to p1950) Elkhorn Wisc.; U.S.; Intermediate?
no bid Three Star; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student
$ 31.00 Beacon; Marked Boston Music Co (Cundy Bettoney?); U.S.; Student
$ 15.50 Three Star; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student
$ 51.00 Cadet (introduced 1940); Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student
$225.00 D Noblet; Leblanc (1904 - current) La Couture & Paris; France; Student/restored
$ 32.09 No Name; unknown; U.S.; Student
$ 81.00 Pan American Moderne; C.G. Conn & Pan American (1879 - current) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$297.38 Supertone; Imported by Sears; unknown; Student/restored
$ 36.50 Hoosier; Harry Pedler Co (1919 - 1936) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 16.50 Three Star; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student
no bid Madelon; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student
$ 9.99 Champion; H. Grossman or Lyon & Healy; U.S.; Student
$ 20.50 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - 1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 50.65 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - 1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 66.00 Three Star; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student
no bid A. Fontaine (4 piece); Trade name for U.S. import instruments; Paris; Student/intermediate?
$ 46.00 No model name; unknown; unknown; Student/no barrel
no bid Grand Rapids; unknown; unknown; Student
no bid Soloiste; unknown; U.S.; Student
$ 59.99 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - 1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student/restored
$ 32.00 Three Star; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student
$ 40.00 Chandler; unknown; U.S.; Student
$306.58 Model 524?; C.G. Conn ; U.S.; Pro
$100.00 Elkhart; Sometimes marked Elkhart Band Instruments. This one Buesher on case; U.S.; Student
$ 50.00 F.E. Olds; F.E. Olds (1908 - p 1950) Los Angeles; U.S.; Student
$ 46.00 Gladiator; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Student
$340.75 Boston Wonder; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Intermediate/Key of A
$ 60.00 Euclid's; Cleveland Musical Instruments? (owned by H.N. White 1925) was in Euclid Ohio.; U.S.; Student
no bid Elkhart; Sometimes marked Elkhart Band Instruments. This one Buesher on case; U.S.; Student/no barrel
no bid No model name; unknown; unknown; Student
$124.50 American Standard; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Student
$ 31.51 A. Fontaine; Trade name for U.S. import instruments; Paris; Student/intermediate?
$ 45.66 Made in Elkhart; unknown; U.S.; Student
$122.55 D Noblet; Leblanc (1904 - current) La Couture & Paris; France; Student
$289.02 Ray Lammers; Marked Cincinnati; U.S.; Student
$282.93 American Standard; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Student
$ 91.00 Collegiate; Holton (1907 to p1950) Elkhorn Wisc.; U.S.; Student
$ 37.00 Gladiator; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Student
no bid Master Model; Henri Selmer (1885 - current) ; France; Pro
$ 43.00 American Perfection; unknown; unknown; Student
$ 34.50 Loveri; unknown; U.S.; Student
$ 75.00 Supertone; Imported by Sears; unknown; Student
$ 61.00 G. Valette - Paris; Trade name for U.S. import instruments; France ?; Student
$ 41.00 U.S. Army Standard (Marked U.S.Q.M.C) ; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston ; U.S.; Student
$ 91.00 U.S. (Military); Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston (Serial number starts with "A"); U.S.; Intermediate?
$ 56.02 Olympian; unknown; U.S.; Student
$ 19.00 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - 1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student/no barrel
$ 51.00 Gladiator; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Student
$ 36.00 Dixie Leader; marked made in Elkhart; U.S.; Student
no bid Olympian; unknown; U.S.; Student
$ 20.01 Henri Dubois; unknown; France; Student
$ 95.00 Rene Dumont; unknown; unknown; Student
$ 36.00 Olympian; unknown; U.S.; Student
$ 55.18 Collegiate; Holton (1907 to p1950) Elkhorn Wisc.; U.S.; Student
$ 46.00 Odell; Maker unknown (Vega and Thompson & Odell used name, but around 1900;) marked Boston; U.S.; Student
$ 66.00 Wolverine; Grinnell Brothers; U.S. ; Student
no bid P.X. Laube; Progressive Music Company (but also offered by Bettoney); U.S.; Student
$ 44.55 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - 1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
no bid American Beauty; unknown; U.S.; Student
$ 50.00 P.X. Laube; Progressive Music Company (but also offered by Bettoney); U.S.; Student
no bid Windsor; Elkhart Band Instruments (bought by Buescher 1928); U.S.; Student
$ 56.00 Henri Leduc; unknown; France; Student
$100.00 Revere; Trade name for U.S. import instruments; Some France, some England; Student
$ 51.00 American Made Easy Play Superior Quality; unknown; unknown; Student
$102.50 American Standard; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Student
$ 36.00 Pitt American ; Maybe Volkwein Brothers, (1905 - p1950) Pittsburgh; U.S.; Student
$ 47.57 Leon Aubert; unknown; U.S.; Student
$ 13.83 American Beauty; unknown; U.S.; Student/badly damaged
$ 85.08 Pan American Special; C.G. Conn & Pan American (1879 - current) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 13.00 Collegiate; Holton (1907 to p1950) Elkhorn Wisc.; U.S.; Student/no barrel
$ 49.99 Merson Ultratone; unknown; U.S.; Student
$ 7.50 American Gloritone; Penzel Muller (1899 - p1955) New York; U.S.; Student
$113.50 Covertype; Harry Pedler Co (1919 - 1936) Elkhart; U.S.; Student/Plateau
$275.00 Harry Pedler; Harry Pedler Co (1919 - 1936) Elkhart; U.S.; Pro
$192.25 Americanna; unknown; U.S.; Student
$255.00 Premier; Harry Pedler Co (1919 - 1936) Elkhart; U.S.; Student/Restored Eb
$610.00 Master Model; Henri Selmer (1885 - current) ; France; Pro
$200.00 D Noblet; Leblanc (1904 - current) La Couture & Paris; France; Student
$127.50 Henry Farny; Trade name for U.S. import instruments; France; Student
$ 49.00 Supertone; Imported by Sears; France; Student
$ 76.00 P.X. Laube; Progressive Music Company (but also offered by Bettoney -- Bettoney barrel on this one); U.S.; Student
$ 68.89 American Made Easy Play Superior Quality; unknown; unknown; Student
$ 50.00 Boston Wonder; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Intermediate
$ 61.00 Pan American Special; C.G. Conn & Pan American (1879 - current) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$357.91 Master Model; Henri Selmer (1885 - current) ; France; Pro/Full Boehm
$ 94.03 Regent; Ohio Band Instrument (probably H.N. White or Reynolds); U.S.; Student
$587.00 Silva Bet; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Pro/Full Boehm
no bid D Noblet; Leblanc (1904 - current) La Couture & Paris; France; Student
$ 53.00 Bostonian; (Pedler?); unknown; Student
$112.50 Continental Clarion; C.G. Conn subsidiary formed in 1923; U.S.; Student
$124.45 Three Star; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student/restored
$ 26.00 Premier; Harry Pedler Co (1919 - 1936) Elkhart; U.S.; Student/restored
$ 24.99 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - 1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 15.15 No name; unknown; unknown; Student
$ 75.00 Collegiate; Holton (1907 to p1950) Elkhorn Wisc.; U.S.; Student/no barrel shown
no bid American Standard; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; Student
$ 51.00 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - 1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 41.00 Artist; Penzel Muller; U.S.; Student
$101.00 Cavalier; C.G. Conn (1879 - 1950) Elkhart; U.S.; Student
$ 56.00 Three Star; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Student
$ 36.00 Boston Wonder; Cundy Bettoney (1907-1950) Boston; U.S.; Intermediate
$ 29.95 no name; unknown; unknown; Student
$699.00 Treibert ; (double walled) Triebert (1810 - early 20c; then owned by Couesnon) ; France; Pro/double walled
$ 63.00 Pitt American ; Maybe Volkwein Brothers, (1905 - p1950) Pittsburgh; U.S.; Student
$ 39.66 Continental Colonial; C.G. Conn subsidiary formed in 1923; U.S.; Student
$ 66.00 Cleveland; H. N. White (1895 - 1955(?)) Cleveland; U.S.; intermediate
$ 18.62 no name; unknown; France; Student
no bid A. Fontaine; Trade name for U.S. import instruments; Paris; Student/intermediate?




Post Edited (2004-03-03 00:01)

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 Re: Another boring metal clarinet survey
Author: jim lande 
Date:   2004-03-02 03:54

Last year's survey: 2003 survey




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 Re: Another boring metal clarinet survey
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2004-03-02 04:11

Thanks for the update Jim! I appreciate someone doing this since I'm always curious as to what they fetch and it would help me when I decide to start doing some bidding of my own.

Alexi

Small Group Leader
US Army School of Music NCO Academy


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 Re: Another boring metal clarinet survey
Author: Synonymous Botch 
Date:   2004-03-02 12:17

There has been complaint from Jim's neighbors that none of their cellphone calls come through in a 300 yard radius around his basement.

You've been warned...

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 Re: Another boring metal clarinet survey
Author: William Hughes 2017
Date:   2004-03-02 13:06

Boring? Never!

Thanks once again, Jim.

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 Re: Another boring metal clarinet survey
Author: msloss 
Date:   2004-03-02 13:07

So many lamps. So few lightbulbs.

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 Re: Another boring metal clarinet survey
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2004-03-02 13:33

WOW and GeeWhiz, Jim, I just didn't realize how much metal "horn trading" was being carried on. I haven't placed many bids lately, I have a "stable-full" of woods at the moment. I saw one [prob. more] double walled, did I give you the patent #, to Haynes, flute and cl?, of a "thermoclarinet" [I believe], if not I'll re-find it. Many TKS for this "Piece of History" . Don

Thanx, Mark, Don

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 Re: Another boring metal clarinet survey
Author: ned 
Date:   2004-03-03 05:40

Struth Jim - I guess you don't need much sleep.

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 Re: Another boring metal clarinet survey
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2004-03-03 06:03

Anyone up to the task of following and recording the Buffets for sale? Shouldn't be TOO many more that the above list . . . .

Small Group Leader
US Army School of Music NCO Academy


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 Re: Another boring metal clarinet survey
Author: BobD 
Date:   2004-03-03 15:32

Boring Not...thanks Jim

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