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Author: bill28099
Date: 2004-02-20 22:28
Does anyone have a biography of Mr. C. Rose? I've searched the Internet plus this site and found nothing. As a kid I always thought he was some dejected want to be member of the Paris Symphony sitting in a little room above the Avenue des Champs-Elysees gleefully placing notes on the page full well knowing they were going to drive clarinet players berserk for the next 500 years. Now after a 40 year hiatus I realize how melodic some really are. Did he write anything else besides Etudes to discourage and demoralize clarinetists?
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Author: Avie
Date: 2004-02-20 23:09
Thats a very interesting observation of Mr. Rose. It never seemed to bother me! DUHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?*&%$#@**
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Author: Jerry McD.
Date: 2004-02-21 04:52
He didn't actually write them.....he 'borrowed' them. However, whether they are original or not doesn't lessen their value as study material. I'm not certain there is anything better out there for building overall musicianship with the possible exception of the Bach Suites.
Jerry McD.
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Author: L. Omar Henderson
Date: 2004-02-21 12:23
In the Book 1 - From the French School which contains Rose 40 Studies, Rose 32 Etudes, and Rose 9 Caprices published by Southern Music Company and Edited by David Hite there is a front cover introduction about the pieces. I have not researched Cryille Rose so I can not attest to accuracy of the material given but it indicates that Rose was not a composer but adapted works written by geat violin teachers at the Conservatoire Nationale de Musique a Paris for the clarinet. This conservatory fostered other well know clarinetists such as Klose (sorry to my French friends about the lack of proper accent marks on the French words). The etudes were popularized in the U.S. by Daniel Bonade who used them in much of his teaching.
My own experience with the 32 etudes has been that performing them on the clarinet is sometimes difficult (but perhaps a good learning experience) because there are sometimes no appropriate places to take breaths. This is most likely the consequence of them being written originally for the violin. This aside, they can be adapted as excellent teaching tools for both technique and "musicality" for the player.
The Doctor
Post Edited (2004-02-21 12:26)
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Author: Jerry McD.
Date: 2004-02-21 19:02
The '32' were originally written for oboe. I don't want to get much more specific because the original poster should still do their searches and this information can be found. An interesting part of the story is that each professor at the Paris Conservatory was expected to write an etude book and as Doctor pointed out, Rose was not a composer so he had to borrow from others. I have seen the oboe etudes that these were taken from and they are not altered all that much, which might explain the long breath lines that we all struggle with.
Jerry McD.
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Author: bill28099
Date: 2004-02-21 20:22
Once I knew his first name was Cyrille I had no problem finding a plethora of information. Thanks to everyone.
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2004-02-24 04:07
Although I play professionally I think the Rose are among the finest methods for teaching and the above comment about not finding a place to breathe can be quickly remedied. There are loads of spots for easy breathes in the Rose stuff!!
find a teacher and have some fun!
David Dow
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Author: Mark Pinner
Date: 2004-02-24 05:12
My copy of the 32 Etudes is from 1913 published by Carl Fischer (0439). I am the 4th owner of this book I can identify all the previous owners, 2 of whom were clarinettists in the Sydney Symphony Orchestra in its early days, the other, prior to me, was the head of woodwind at the Sydney Conservatorium of Music. In amongst other things in the same collection of music is a book called "Marasco" "Dieci Studi Di Perfezionamento per Clarinetto" which is a Ricordi publication edited by Alamiro Giamperi and is from the 30's. This totally irrelevant to the original post other than showing that clarinettists for at least 3 generations have been using Rose Etudes.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2004-02-24 06:34
Mark Pinner wrote:
> My copy of the 32 Etudes is from 1913 published by Carl Fischer
> (0439). I am the 4th owner of this book
I have the same original edition, but unfortunately it is not very good. The 1913 Carl Fischer edition (0 439) is marred by misprints and errors that are an annoyance to correct.
The newer Hite edition of the Rose 32 Etudes is far superior ...GBK
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