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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2004-02-14 11:27
Hi Everyone,
I recently borrowed the Bandman's Clarinet Repertoire Volume I from a friend and am enjoying "trying" to play all of the 1st clarinet parts from the Great Overtures, a collection of Carl Fischer publications. Tough stuff!!!
What I was wondering though was what other band or wind symphony clarinetist think are the most demanding or the most interesting 1st clarinet parts (OK, some of the stuff 2nds play is really harder as it lies all too often right over the break) in literature you have performed. Perhaps your top 10.
I begin the list with:
The Holst Suites 1 and 2
Moorside Suite
Pineapple Poll
Toccata Marziale
Blue Shades
Pomp and Circumstance
Universal Judgment
Tam O' Shanter
Festive Overture
What're your favorites?
HRL
PS Probably most of the stuff from the Eastman Wind Ensemble, N. Texas State, and Dallas Winds makes the list by default :-).
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2004-02-14 14:49
I became interested in "The Shepherd on the Rock", Schubert from our discussion here, and found that a good friend had a copy [Stainer & Bell]. So I borrowed it, haven't yet tried the cl part, BUT it sure looks tough, partic. the 2nd page [Allegretto] I was warned about!! For bass clarinet, I found that part of the Der Rosenkavalier Waltzes kept me busy/attentive, and the sop. cl part seemed to challenge all 3 sections of our band. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: GBK
Date: 2004-02-14 15:20
Hank Lehrer said:
> I recently borrowed the Bandman's Clarinet Repertoire
> Volume I from a friend
Now who would that have been from?
Enjoy...GBK
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Author: Bradley
Date: 2004-02-14 15:20
I think in my top ten right now would be Schoenberg's Theme and Variations with some of the registers the parts can be in with all the accidentals. Another issue is the 7th Variation when there are 4 solo clarinet parts at the same time the other regular parts are still being played since everything has to be in tune and line up perfectly.
Bradley
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2004-02-14 16:46
-David Stanhope: Folk Songs, set 1 and 2
-Leonard Bernstein: Profanation from Jeremiah
-Karel Husa: Music for Prague 1968
-Michael Daugherty: Niagara Falls, Red Cape Tango
-Jonathan Dove: The Ringing Isle
-Charles Ives: Country Band March
-JS Bach: Passacaglia and Fugue in C minor
-Vaughan Williams: Variations for Wind Band
-Don Freund: Jug Blues & Fat Pickin
-Joseph Schwantner: "...and the Mountains Rising Nowhere" is quite interesting, especially since the 2nd and 3rds play glass crystals instead of clarinets (it's also a fascinating piece).
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: theclarinetist
Date: 2004-02-15 01:51
Ron Nelson's Rocky Point Holiday is fun and very difficult. Though horribly over-played, I think Molly on the Shore has a great clarinet part as well.
DH
theclarinetist@yahoo.com
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Author: atl4413
Date: 2004-02-15 04:26
Hank remarks that some of the stuff 2nd plays is harder...
It gave me something to think about - all through band in school I only wanted to play 1st, and practiced 3-4 hours a day to make sure I was 1st, because I thought the 2nd and 3rd parts were too "boring".
I do not mean that in a disrespectful way - all parts are necessary and important. I hope that I haven't offended anyone.
Now, I'd just like a break from my "day-job" so that I could practice enough to play the 2nd and 3rd parts without botching them.
If only I played well enough to earn a living at it. How many people are lucky enough to do what they love the most every day and actually survive off of it.
But, if you were, would you get tired of it? Would it then become the "day-job" and lose some of it's fun?
Just curious - does anyone that posts of this board, that plays full-time for a living, get "tired" of it?
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Author: Mark Pinner
Date: 2004-02-15 10:27
Try Sullivan's Pineapple Poll from the Boosey's Military Band Journal. Solo, 1st or Eb are all near on impossible. The same Journal's transcription of William Tell is also interesting. I am sure there are lots out there who can play these parts perfectly, blindfolded wearing boxing gloves at twice the recommended speed. I am waiting in anticipation to hear these renditions.
"Just curious - does anyone that posts of this board, that plays full-time for a living, get "tired" of it?"
Yes. Mainly of the punishing number of posts on Buffet. If you like Buffet's play on them but don't rave on.
What reeds are best? None, they are all hopeless, you just have to live with them.
Which mouthpiece is best? See above under reeds!
Ligatures? They just hold the reed on! I wont even get to tuning barrels.
Any talk of concert band, ie. I should be on 1st chair not the other guy, politics.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2004-02-15 14:30
Amazing how some can divert the subject of a post.....even though the cynical jesting is humourous. Yes, one can even get tired of constant griping.
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Author: Lisa
Date: 2004-02-15 18:59
http://hometown.aol.com/hccb1/sounds.html
Click on "Wedding Dance" (It's from Symphinci Suite Hasseneh") on the above link to hear my fun, newest challenge. (Can you here the part that sounds like the opening to the "Washington Grays" march???  If music was my life and not a community band hobby, I'd probably have no trouble playing the first part on this piece. If you know it, I'd love some advice on the nasty sections at 63 and 100 (fingering issues).
A comment on playing 2nd and 3rd regularly: I loved it! Our high school didn't have a wonderful concert band, and shared the time with orchestra, so even though I played 1st, I didn't get much experience. I played 2nd part at 3-4 festivals in high school each year(up to states), and it was challenging enough for me (but once I learned Pineapple Poll, I really could play it well. Then I also played 2nd in my hometown community band for 6 years before I moved away.
Now I really wish I played 2nd rather than 1st in my present community band, since I know the 2nd part on SO MANY charts. One of the things that helped me decide to leave one band I was in was their "rotational seating" for clarinets. Apparently a really good player came in new, and there wasn't room on 1st for her, and this band doesn't do challenges or anything like that. (Tough, right?) Well, she complained loud enough so that the concertmaster devised a schedule that included rotating every third month. (We played a concert a month). So this girl got her turn on first, but also second and third, too. The concertmaster stayed put, and the rest of us were randomly assigned. I hated my months on first part, since they always seemed to have the hardest marches and overtures. Then when music I knew was chosen, I was back on another part. C'est la vie!
Post Edited (2004-02-16 01:55)
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2004-02-15 23:59
GBK,
Just think how hard some of the clarinet parts in "the book" would be if they were in teh original key. That's what makes P & C so hard.
HRL
PS I should amend my original "from a friend " to read "from a trusted fiend!"
PSS Waiting for inter-library loan to come trough. I plan to call tomorrow and see if I can shake things up a little.
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Author: Garret
Date: 2004-02-16 05:44
Dance Movements by Philip Spark (sp?) is an extremely challenging piece. No slackers allowed on any part.
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