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 Clarinet Repair
Author: fredackerman 
Date:   2004-02-06 16:58

I want to find a truly excellent repair person for overhaul and maybe replating of a older professional Leblanc. While looking around the board and internet, I see that some repair people give you a "blow by blow" description of what they do. This looks very impressive...then there are others with great [on this board] reputations that are more general in saying what they do for your instrument. I know that "less is more", I'm just wondering if they all basically follow the same protocol? I would like to hear about some of your recent [past few years] experiences with your Clarinet and the people that brought them up to speed. In my field of photography there are many we call hacks, guys who represent themselves as professionals, but are usually less competent than good amateurs. Is that a problem with instrument repair? Thank you,

Fred

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 Re: Clarinet Repair
Author: Synonymous Botch 
Date:   2004-02-06 17:05

Right, being able to convert ASA to ISO doesn't make you competent.

I would look for a repair shop that has an actual player on hand.
There's a local hack that did work for me (briefly) until I realized that I was likely to always bring back a horn for a 'little adjustment'.

Turns out he just squeezed the bejeezuz out of the keys and blew hard to play test anything... not one for the lighter touch.

If you really want a serious bench tech, call your local music union and find a consensus. I would also recommend symphony players that can lead you to local resources.

If you intend to have the instrument for some years, get cork pads on the top keys - they will outlast standard pads.

I also like white kid leather on the largest lower pads, but they may not be a good choice for you in your locale (high humidity can lead to maintenance problems) - the new GoreTex pads are supposedly good, but I haven't had any installed.

On this BBS - Dave Spiegelthal and John Butler are exemplars of the field, and play the instruments as well (they know how one should feel).

Anticipate a complete overhual will cost somewhere around $150 for a clarinet, if all the keys are intact, no rust on any screws.
(Time is money)

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 Re: Clarinet Repair
Author: fredackerman 
Date:   2004-02-06 23:33

I'm looking around the internet [again] and found another repair guy who spells everything out, almost dots every i! Do any of you know of Thomas Ohme's Woodwind Service out of Milwaukee Wisconsin? He really goes into heavy detail about his work. Word of mouth is still more important to me and this board led me to both the 'doctor' and 'Gregory Smith' , two execellent providers of fine equipment.

Fred

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 Re: Clarinet Repair
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2004-02-06 23:47

fredackerman wrote:

> I'm looking around the internet [again] and found another
> repair guy who spells everything out, almost dots every i! Do
> any of you know of Thomas Ohme's Woodwind Service out of
> Milwaukee Wisconsin?

Try doing a search on the Klarinet email list for Ohme; he's had a less than stellar business reputation.

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 Re: Clarinet Repair
Author: ron b 
Date:   2004-02-07 00:36

Hi, Fred -

Let me share with you a little synopsis of my Return Route to Repair and Restoration.

I took one of my horns to a repair shop at a major local music store. I'd recently retired and decided to maybe take up the instrument again after twenty years of getting it out once in a while just to 'look at it'.

I had worked in a repair shop for about four years early in my musical life - but that was way back in high school and for a little while after... ancient, ancient history. I had no pads, cork, tools, and only an active memory of what it might take to put the instrument back into playing condition.
I took it to the tech who quoted me a price for a repad/play condition service. I picked up the clarinet a couple of weeks later and was pleased that it was all cleaned up and had nice clean white pads and mostly new cork. At home I put the thing together to toot a few notes just to see how things felt. I could still play although I had no stamina - but, oddly enough, playing was like a duck to water. The only problem was... several pads were not seating right. I could feel and see that they weren't right.
Wait a minute, :( I says. This isn't right.

I took it back.

I took it back again..

To summarize a rather tedious and boring story, I finally discovered Ferree's, ordered some supplies and did the job myself.

Since then I maintain all my own instruments, have been constantly upgrading my skills from "very good" to "better than ever" (you can add a grain of salt if you like :) ) - I had a wonderful role model of How Not To Do It in the ha ... opps, I mean "tech" who indirectly got me to take up the repair end of things again. It started as a retirement hobby that has turned into a moderate business venture. I presently do clarinets and saxes and such for local schools and a few 'civilian' clients. I've had only one return last year for a too loose middle tenon cork. All my repairs are still going strong after two years, many clarinets, a few flutes, several saxes, an oboe and three bass clarinets.

My point is, there's no guarantee that a major music store will have a good tech on hand. Also, I wouldn't rule out the small independent home based business. Some of us independents strive to do a good job and are interested in constantly improving our skills. We care  :) ...maybe more so than the guy who's working hard to pay someone else's overhead.

The best advice by far is, as others have posted many times here, check out the reputation of a LOCAL technician you can work with who will give you the individual attention you and your instrument deserve.

- r[cool]n b -



Post Edited (2004-02-07 00:37)

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 Re: Clarinet Repair
Author: BobD 
Date:   2004-02-07 14:33

Good for you ron, my story is similar if not identical.

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 Re: Clarinet Repair
Author: saxlite 
Date:   2004-02-07 16:26

Me three.............

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 Re: Clarinet Repair
Author: fredackerman 
Date:   2004-02-07 23:26

Well Mark I took your advice and did the "Ohme" search, wow [double wow]! Looks (his web-site) can be deceiving. Funny, I expected maybe inferior workmanship or something of that sort... but not returning the instrument at all! Very negative reports about his shop. I did some checking on the local scene and I didn't feel too comfortable with the repair people. So, I'm going to do the smart thing, send a e-mail to a guy with a great reputation, dial up Fedex and ship the Leblanc to John Butler, deep in the heart of Texas! Thank you Mark..

Fred

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 Re: Clarinet Repair
Author: ron b 
Date:   2004-02-07 23:54

I s'pose, Fred, if I'd known a long time ago what I know today ,and you wisely persevered to find out, and had no local choices, I'd have sent my instrument to John B. I admire your persistence in doing your 'homework'. I wish, looking back on things now, that I'd been as wise as you; I would've saved myself a lot of aggravation and quite a few dollars. Thanks for a great topic and a reminder to all of us to look before we leap. We need to etch that on our refrigerator doors or something  :)

- ron b -

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 Re: Clarinet Repair
Author: Ralph Katz 
Date:   2004-02-09 10:23

Talk to the players in your nearest world-class symphony orchestra. At the very least, these players will require someone reliable, whose work is solid. In any case, you will hope to gain first-hand experience about high-level professional repair shops. Or this is what you would expect. This will be a good starting point, but you can never guarantee that.

Be prepared to hear just about everything. They may give you good advise, or not. They might refuse to tell you who their repair person(s) is/are to protect their access to them. Or you might find that you distrust their technician for your own reasons.

If you don't like what you hear, ask the players in the next closest world-class orchestra. Some people go with the best, and some the cheapest, what you would expect in the real world. Then you decide what you want to do.

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 Re: Clarinet Repair
Author: claren11 
Date:   2004-02-09 16:22


Have you heard of Ward Brodt in Madison, Wisconsin? They have a website or call and ask for Mary in Woodwinds repair. I have heard from professional muscians who were pleased with their work. I had them make adjustments to my daughter's R13 while I was in the store and listened as they play tested.

Also I have been to the Woodwinds and Brasswinds store in South Bend, Indiana and have had work done by their service. I had good impressions about them.

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