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Author: GBK
Date: 2004-02-09 00:23
I recently came across a few lesser known Italian musical terms.
Before consulting a music dictionary, Groves, or any other reference source, see how many you can define. Be honest and post your score out of 10 (2 out of 10, 6 out of 10, etc...)
Do not post the answers.
Answers (for those that need them) will be provided in a few days.
Good luck! How many do you know?
1. con vaghezza
2. pacatamente
3. scintillantemente
4. ravivandemente
5. concitato
6. frettolosamente
7. snellamente
8. straccinato
9. diluendo
10. lusingando
[ scroll down to find the answers - GBK ]
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Author: CPW
Date: 2004-02-09 00:30
Yo' moma-isimo
Goose egg
Bupkis
Nada
except maybe for the scintillations
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Author: Avie
Date: 2004-02-09 02:34
I can guess only a couple but I looked them all up on my language translator.
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Author: saxlite
Date: 2004-02-09 02:45
Looks like "Variations on a Pasta Theme" By Luigi Rigatoni to me.......
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2004-02-09 03:13
I think I got 5 or 6 but I don't actually have a music dictionary handy to check! The year of Italian has served me slightly well though, and I did see "diluendo" in a piece just last week! And I wasn't aware that "lusingando" was that rare...is it just me that thinks so?
Katrina
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Author: Micaela
Date: 2004-02-09 03:39
If you have the Hite edition of the Rose studies you're used to most of these babies. I wish editors would translate the more obscure terms into English for American editions like the Hite (the terms they add, not the ones the composer wrote). Call me a dumb American, but I speak three languages and my college doesn't offer Italian.
I know I know 7 terms and I believe 8.
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Author: ned
Date: 2004-02-09 04:00
Yeah - I know all of these - you can get ém at the italian restaurant I go to regularly.
# 4 - ravivandemente is a particular favourite - apparently the dish was invented by an insane Italian - or so the story goes.
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Author: CPW
Date: 2004-02-09 04:04
Reservo classico is my favorite.
Of course, a nice super Tuscan would not be refused.
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Author: jim lande
Date: 2004-02-09 04:21
One term looks similar to a word I know. I got curious so I ran a Taome search (like google). The number of hits is shown below. Then I ran the words through an online Italian-to-English translator. Only four were translated (denoted below as 'yes').
con vaghezza 17
pacatamente 1330
scintillantemente 2 (yes)
ravivandemente 0
concitato 1870
frettolosamente 3600 (yes)
snellamente 3
straccinato 4
diluendo 534 (yes)
lusingando 223 (yes)
Most of the links appear to be in Italian. Clearly some of these words come up in every day conversation in Italy and others don't. However, straccinato showed up twice in English language menus as a way to prepare broccoli.
And http://www.dolmetsch.com/defss.htm
has some of the definitions and many many equally obscure music words.
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Author: chuck
Date: 2004-02-09 04:44
Piece of cake:
1. with veggies
2. packaged mints
3. scintillatingly
4. wake up, dummy
5. with citatos
6. cold mints
7. smelly
8.scratchy
9.watered down
10. Lucy, after Desi, with new husband Gando
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2004-02-09 13:53
GBK, are these terms more used in [Italian] operatic music than in symphonic music? I only found several in my "Pocket Music Dict", but will look in my IT/Eng dict. To me only the scint--- and maybe the pac--- rang bells in Eng and Latin. Translation badly needed!! Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: BobD
Date: 2004-02-09 14:32
1. con vaghezza....with vegetables
2. pacatamente....joost a litsa bitsa
3. scintillantemente.....hotsy totsy
4. ravivandemente....even hotter
5. concitato....with potato skins
6. frettolosamente....don't bother the cook
7. snellamente....fish caught with a net
8. straccinato....killed quickly with a knife
9. diluendo....the opposite of 'al dente"
10. lusingando ...linguine with goose
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Author: Fred
Date: 2004-02-09 15:28
I'm sure none of them are on my Atkins Diet . . .
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Author: GBK
Date: 2004-02-09 16:28
Update:
I received an email from Hans (from this board), who had 6 (possibly 7) correct! Very impressive!
For those of you whose Italian musical terms are mainly limited to Patricola, Pomarico and Altieri, don't fret - answers will be posted later today...GBK
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2004-02-09 17:17
Makes me believe Percy Grainger was on the right track by only writing his musical terms in English..............just kidding, of course --- one of the many wonderful aspects of music is that it is multilingual. And congrats to Hans (who is indeed a very smart fellow). Another thing is that those of us speaking a related Romance language (in my case French) can often get pretty close to guessing the Italian words from their frequent similarity.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2004-02-09 21:19
The answers:
1. con vaghezza - with grace or charm
2. pacatamente - placidly
3. scintillantemente - sparklingly
4. ravivandemente - quickly
5. concitato - stirred, roused up
6. frettolosamente - hurriedly
7. snellamente - nimbly
8. straccinato - stretched out
9. diluendo - dying away
10. lusingando - coaxing, alluring, intimate
Thanks for playing.
Don't forget to pick up your lovely parting gifts on the way out...GBK
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Author: Ralph G
Date: 2004-02-10 14:34
This quiz is a lot easier if you look at GBK's answers first. I got 10 out of 10. I challenge anyone to top that.o
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Author: Mark Pinner
Date: 2004-02-12 01:52
Surely this all depends on the dialect being used. Here are some alternate translations.
1. con vaghezza - With vagueness.
2. pacatamente - This is too bloody hard i'm packing up and going home.
3. scintillantemente - A dialect used after consuming too much sparkling wine.
4. ravivandemente - Come on, lets rev this thing up a bit.
5. concitato - Belonging to Concita, that cute violinist with the dark hair.
6. frettolosamente - I am fretting because I have lost my perfect reed.
7. snellamente - hurry up.
8. straccinato - Coffee with strychnine. Well, some people put vanilla in it.
9. diluendo - Go away you idiot.
10. lusingando - You are losing it.
Sorry in advance.
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