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 Also Sprach Zaranthrusta
Author: rbell96 
Date:   2004-02-09 00:22

Hi guys,

I am just posting for info on this piece. My friend who is a viola player is finding it really hard to get into. I was just wondering if us clarinet players could show her a different perspective. I have posted since I don't know the piece very well too.

Thanks,
Rob

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 Re: Also Sprach Zaranthrusta
Author: CPW 
Date:   2004-02-09 00:31

Get 2001 A Space Odeyse (sp) on VHS or DVD
Play it.
Then see if she/he likes it.

Oh yeah....Elvis used it for an intro, too.

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 Re: Also Sprach Zaranthrusta
Author: Ralph G 
Date:   2004-02-09 01:52

Somewhere in my big stack of unlabled videos is a children's concert by the Dallas Symphony I taped off A&E years ago. Conductor Andrew Litton used this piece to demonstrate the emotional power of certain pieces. During the final big crescendo, he just started waving his arms madly and bugging out his eyes to get the musicians to blow 'em out of their seats. It was pretty comical looking, but danged if that isn't just about the best rendition I've ever heard. It was like an affirmation that, yes, it's okay to go way over the top to get the maximum effect on that piece.

O, if I could just find it now..

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 Re: Also Sprach Zaranthrusta
Author: diz 
Date:   2004-02-09 02:28

I've played it professionally (viola) but not the clarinet part. It's wonderfully written for the violas with plenty of divided writting. In fact the first and second parts are so heavily divided that some editions of this work come with Violin 1 A and B ...

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 Re: Also Sprach Zarathustra
Author: GBK 
Date:   2004-02-09 04:06

The best explanation is probably found in Strauss' own words:

"...I meant to convey by means of music an idea of the development of the human race from its origin, through the various phases of its evolution, religious and scientific, up to Nietzche's idea of the superman. The whole symphonic poem is intended as my homage to the genius of Nietzche..."

...GBK



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 Re: Also Sprach Zaranthrusta
Author: CPW 
Date:   2004-02-09 04:07

...and a big Monolith appears in the middle of the orchestra
and they toss the instruments in the air
and suddenly Jupiter appears.

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 Re: Also Sprach Zarathustra
Author: GBK 
Date:   2004-02-09 04:30

Dave Bowman: Hello, HAL do you read me, HAL?
HAL: Affirmative, Dave, I read you.
Dave Bowman: Open the pod bay doors, HAL.
HAL: I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.
Dave Bowman: What's the problem?
HAL: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do.
Dave Bowman: What are you talking about, HAL?
HAL: This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.

...GBK




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 Re: Also Sprach Zaranthrusta
Author: D Dow 
Date:   2004-02-09 12:19

Also Sprach zarathustra

Richard Stauss and his masterful use of the large scale romatic orchestra. I have played this a few times an can honestly say it is a very tough piece especially in the strings and this could certainly pose a problem to a player with limited technique.

The idiom is very chromatic in place and really not as close to atonality. Get a good recording of it...preferably the Steinberg Boston account from the 70s with excellent DG sound....as to practice routines to work up the tough spots much of the difficulty is you need an excellent conductor and a group with highly developed ensemble....

This tone poems is a tribute to the work of the philoshper Neitchze(this could be mispelt)....it is an inspired piece and you really need to hear a great recording of it...

Solti?Chicago if on disc is quite nice too!!

David Dow

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 Re: Also Sprach Zaranthrusta
Author: Alphie 
Date:   2004-02-09 15:17

As an Eb-player I feel blessed every time I see it on our schedual for the season.

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 Re: Also Sprach Zaranthrusta
Author: CPW 
Date:   2004-02-09 21:47

I am feeling ill, Glenn
Daisy, daisy, give me your answer....do

The problem with the whole Nietsche scenario is that the philosopher was totally misinterpreted by the Nazis. The other problem is that his original document was exposed to a green glowing metallic substance which diminshed the power of his written words.

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 Re: Also Sprach Zaranthrusta
Author: Alphie 
Date:   2004-02-09 22:03

Cryptonite?

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 Re: Also Sprach Zaranthrusta
Author: diz 
Date:   2004-02-09 23:32

LOL @ CPW

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 Re: Also Sprach Zaranthrusta
Author: ned 
Date:   2004-02-10 01:00

Zaranthrusta - is it Zarathustra actually? The first spelling is a little risque. I'm pedantic I know, but I can't find my copy of the 2001 soundtrack to verify.

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 Re: Also Sprach Zaranthrusta
Author: elmo lewis 
Date:   2004-02-10 01:02

Read the book. Each section of the piece is based on a part of the book. The score has quotes from the book that make it easy find what the music is about. Then read "The Anti-Christ" too. It's a great read.

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 Re: Also Sprach Zaranthrusta
Author: CPW 
Date:   2004-02-10 01:14

Actually stems from Zoroaster (for real, a philosophical movement,
who was the father of Don Diego dela Vega (not real).

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