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Author: ALOMARvelous12
Date: 2004-01-18 15:25
TR | OXO | OOO (overblowing chamuleau D/ clarion A)
I find this fingering unstable and hard to hold for a long time but its easy to get to when coming from an adjacent note such as playing a scale. But what's another fingering for this note that's more stable and that you can easily get to from the E 1 step below.
Specifically, I'm talking about the end of the cadenza from the Copland concerto, where you have to hold the F# for 4 measures.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2004-01-18 16:45
There are more than 20 ways to play F#6.
Hmmm....which to pick?
In this particular passage in the Copland I prefer to play the final F#6:
TR XXO plus top right side key / OOO Eb/G#
It is a very stable fingering which can be played softly.
Work with a tuner to check the intonation on your clarinet...GBK
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Author: javier garcia m
Date: 2004-01-19 10:54
Try also
TR XX0/XXX Eb-G#, in tune. Is the standard position for german system.
after a lot of practice I can play it easily and quick, conecting from both G or E.
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2004-01-19 15:38
I'll have to give your suggestion a try, GBK. It's not in either Ridenour or Arnold but, since we play similar era R13's, it might work for me. Interestingly both Ridenour and Arnold identify a fingering similar to yours (but using the bottom right side trill key instead of the top one) as one of the best fingerings for F# in terms of security and pitch. Ridenour shows several other alternatives involving TR xxo ooo with a variety of combinations of side keys and right-hand vent keys but indicates that all of them tend toward sharpness.
I settled on javier's fingering for the held F# coupled with the "normal" fingering for the "turn-around" right before it. I've never been entirely happy with this solution, though, because I can hear a slight difference in pitch/tone quality between the two. I think I'll also try the alternative from Ridenour and Arnold. Somehow, I've missed that one.
ALOMARvelous, another possibility might be:
TR oxx xxx G#/Eb
On paper, that one looks like it should be easy to get to from E. On my clarinet, however, the transition doesn't always go smoothly. YMMV.
If you don't one, I highly recommend you get a copy of the Tom Ridenour's book of fingerings. IMO, his description of the pitch, security and usefulness of each of the many fingerings he illustrates is worth the price. Gary Van Cott carries it (see the sponsors' pages).
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: GBK
Date: 2004-01-19 18:16
Jack ... Yes, the exact fingering I suggested for the F#6:
(TR XXO plus top right side key / OOO Eb/G#)
is not found in either Ridenour or Arnold.
Ridenour shows it, but without the right pinky Eb/G# key. I like the intonation better in my version.
It is one of my favorite F#6 fingerings and quite useful in many circumstances ...GBK
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Author: Amy
Date: 2004-01-19 18:22
The fingering I use is very similar to GBK's suggestion but I don't know whether my suggestion would be that much different intonation-wise to GBK's. Anyway, here it is:
TR 0XX plus C#/G# key (left pinky) / 000 Eb/G# key (right pinky)
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Author: GBK
Date: 2004-01-19 18:35
Amy ... The fingering you suggested is the standard one for F6 ...GBK
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